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Horse profile

For Once (GB)

2yo gelding (at last run, Oct 2005) · Last trainer Saeed bin Suroor · Last owner Godolphin
by Green Desert (USA) out of Belle Argentine (FR) (Fijar Tango)
2 runs · 1 course · from Sep 2005
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 19 Oct 2005 — 7,671 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2005 · 11th of 15
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Sep 2005 and Oct 2005, the last of them as a 2yo gelding. Finished 11 of 15 at Newcastle last time. By Green Desert (USA), whose progeny in our archive have won 11% of 3,324 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 47C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Newcastle, 19 Oct 2005

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 2 figures · best 47C · median 44
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Soft1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
6f – 7f247C44—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Green Desert (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 11% of 3,324 runs since Jan 2008 (251 horses).

Weakest on good to soft going: 7.8% from 269. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 5.4% from 147.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm46715.2%+4.2—
Good to Firm8128911%00 from 1
Good6676910.3%−0.7—
Good to Soft269217.8%−3.2—
Soft256239%−20 from 1
Heavy5147.8%−3.2—
Standard (AW)1,22315212.4%+1.4—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f3464412.7%+1.7—
6f – 7f1,39416011.5%+0.50 from 2
1m – 1m1f8168310.2%−0.8—
1m2f – 1m4f5516712.2%+1.2—
1m5f – 2m14785.4%−5.6—
2m1f – 2m4f4424.5%−6.5—
2m5f – 3m2414.2%−6.8—
Over 3m200%−11—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Belle Argentine (FR) (Fijar Tango)

5 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Alzerra (UAE) (3 wins).

The wins came over 5f–6f; the highest grade won is Group 3 (Alzerra (UAE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Alzerra (UAE)735f–6fGroup 3
Matloob (GB)20——
Moannaa (GB)10——
Key News (IRE)60——
Daanaat (IRE)30——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
19 Oct 05+21d Newcastle Mali Jenkins Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 7f · Soft · 15 ran 11/15 2 8-11 47C Ted Durcan 7/1
28 Sep 05 Newcastle E.B.F. Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Good To Firm · 14 ran 6/14 ½ 9-0 41C Kerrin McEvoy 6/4F

Quick answers

How many races has For Once (GB) won?
For Once (GB) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2005.
Who trained For Once (GB)?
For Once (GB) was trained by Saeed bin Suroor on the most recent run on record, at Newcastle on 19 October 2005.
Who is For Once (GB)'s sire?
For Once (GB) is by Green Desert (USA) out of Belle Argentine (FR), whose sire is Fijar Tango.
What is For Once (GB)'s sire's record?
Green Desert (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11% of 3,324 runs since Jan 2008 (251 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to soft going: 7.8% from 269. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 5.4% from 147.
Who are For Once (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Belle Argentine (FR), For Once (GB) has 5 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Alzerra (UAE) (3). Highest grade won: Group 3 (Alzerra (UAE)). The wins came over 5f–6f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from September 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.