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Horse profile

For Starters (IRE)

4yo filly (at last run, Jun 2006) · Last trainer M J P O'Brien · Last owner John J Mcloughlin
by In The Wings (GB) out of Neat Dish (CAN) (Stalwart)
3 runs · 2 courses · from Sep 2005
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 10 Jun 2006 — 7,437 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jun 2006 · 15th of 23 Won at Curragh Last raced off OR 70
KTB Profile

For Starters (IRE) is 1 from 3. Hasn't won since Oct 2005.

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026

Progeny in our archive

Produce record

As a dam, For Starters (IRE) has 1 produce in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Dunnboinee (IRE)20——

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 93C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Curragh, 23 Oct 2005 Official rating 70 at the last run, 10 Jun 2006

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 3 figures · best 93C · median 62
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good to Firm1———
Soft1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f393C62—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
In The Wings (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 8.7% of 1,518 runs since Jan 2008 (110 horses).

Strongest on good to firm going: 13% from 231. Weakest on heavy going: 4.4% from 114.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm18422.2%+13.5—
Good to Firm2313013%+4.30 from 1
Good390266.7%−20 from 1
Good to Soft235229.4%+0.7—
Soft270186.7%−21 from 1
Heavy11454.4%−4.3—
Standard (AW)2602710.4%+1.7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f13215.4%+6.7—
1m – 1m1f5623.6%−5.1—
1m2f – 1m4f409399.5%+0.81 from 3
1m5f – 2m480459.4%+0.7—
2m1f – 2m4f283227.8%−0.9—
2m5f – 3m237187.6%−1.1—
Over 3m40410%+1.3—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Neat Dish (CAN) (Stalwart)

5 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Vitznau (IRE) (6 wins).

The wins came over 6f–1m4f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Vitznau (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Vitznau (IRE)7766f–1m½fClass 2
Nice Wee Girl (IRE)1526fClass 5
Chater Knight (IRE)1021m3f–1m4fClass 6
Diolta Do Dhaithi (IRE)90——
Royal Willy (IRE)160——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 1 100% +8.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Curragh 2 1 50% +7.00
Thurles 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Rory Cleary 2 1 50% +7.00
Fran Berry 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Blinkers 2 1 50% +7.00
None 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2006 1 0 0% −1.00
2005 2 1 50% +7.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
10 Jun 06+230d Curragh Centra Summer Eating Convenience Handicap (50-80) 10f · Good To Firm · 23 ran 15/23 3 9-10 7062C Fran Berry 7/1
23 Oct 05+24d Curragh Irish Pride Bunster Bun Maiden 10f · Yielding · 26 ran 1/26 8-8 —93C Rory Cleary 8/1
29 Sep 05 Thurles Horse And Jockey Maiden 12.5f · Good · 15 ran 8/15 shd 8-8 —39C Rory Cleary 16/1

Quick answers

How many races has For Starters (IRE) won?
For Starters (IRE) won 1 of 3 archived starts between 2005 and 2006, a strike rate of 33.3%. Placed 1 time in total (33.3% of starts).
Who trained For Starters (IRE)?
For Starters (IRE) was trained by M J P O'Brien on the most recent run on record, at Curragh on 10 June 2006.
Who is For Starters (IRE)'s sire?
For Starters (IRE) is by In The Wings (GB) out of Neat Dish (CAN), whose sire is Stalwart.
What is For Starters (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 70, from the run on 10 June 2006. That is also the highest on record.
What is For Starters (IRE)'s sire's record?
In The Wings (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.7% of 1,518 runs since Jan 2008 (110 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 13% from 231. Weakest on heavy going: 4.4% from 114.
Who are For Starters (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Neat Dish (CAN), For Starters (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Vitznau (IRE) (6). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Vitznau (IRE)). The wins came over 6f–1m4f. As at Oct 2026.
Has For Starters (IRE) produced winners?
As a dam, For Starters (IRE) has 1 produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from September 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.