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Forgotten Rules (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, Jul 2017) · Last trainer D K Weld · Last owner Moyglare Stud Farm
by Nayef (USA) out of Utterly Heaven (IRE) (Danehill)
13 runs · 8 courses · from Apr 2014
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 2 Jul 2017 — 3,397 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2017 · 7th of 7 4 wins · 4 courses Last raced off OR 107
KTB Profile

Forgotten Rules (IRE) is 4 from 13, including a Group 2 win. The biggest win we hold: the Qipco British Champions Long Distance Cup at Ascot (Oct 2014). Hasn't won since May 2015. All 4 wins have come over 1m5f – 2m. Last raced off 107, 9lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 13 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 9lb off peak
Official rating107↓ 9lb off peak
107 107–116

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 113 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Curragh, 25 Sep 2016

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 4 figures · best 113A · median 69
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good260B46.5—
Soft1———
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m4113A69—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 4 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 84A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Ascot, 15 Oct 2016 Official rating 107 at the last flat run, 2 Jul 2017

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 146A the best of the last 1 rated run · Punchestown, 29 Apr 2014

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 11 figures · best 101A · median 92
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good5101A90—
Soft299B89—
Heavy2101A99.5—
Good to Soft1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m10101A93—
2m1f – 2m4f1———
Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 12 figures from 12 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Nayef (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 10% of 5,634 runs since Jan 2008 (518 horses).

Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 6% from 216.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm661218.2%+8.2—
Good to Firm91010211.2%+1.20 from 1
Good1,4021238.8%−1.22 from 6
Good to Soft693679.7%−0.30 from 1
Soft8789010.3%+0.31 from 2
Heavy308309.7%−0.31 from 3
Standard (AW)1,37714110.2%+0.2—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f84910.7%+0.7—
6f – 7f7347410.1%+0.1—
1m – 1m1f1,16412610.8%+0.8—
1m2f – 1m4f1,81220711.4%+1.4—
1m5f – 2m1,021787.6%−2.44 from 12
2m1f – 2m4f5785810%00 from 1
2m5f – 3m216136%−4—
Over 3m2500%−10—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

6 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Nostra Casa (IRE) (4 wins).

The wins came over 1m2f–2m½f; the highest grade won is Listed (Vintage Nouveau (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Nostra Casa (IRE)2341m5f–2m½f—
Vintage Nouveau (IRE)531m2f–1m4fListed
Time To Inspire (IRE)611m4f—
Topaz Clear (IRE)211m4f—
Eva's Time (IRE)60——
Military Poet (IRE)80——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 6 2 33% −2.27
Heavy 3 1 33% +1.00
Soft 2 1 50% −0.10
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 1 4 1 25% +0.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Ascot 4 1 25% +0.00
Curragh 2 0 0% −2.00
Curragh (IRE) 2 0 0% −2.00
Leopardstown 1 0 0% −1.00
Saint-Cloud (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Navan (IRE) 1 1 100% +0.73
Galway 1 1 100% +0.90
Punchestown 1 1 100% +1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 12 4 33% −2.37
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Pat Smullen 12 3 25% −4.37
Robbie McNamara 1 1 100% +1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 10 4 40% −0.37
Hood 3 0 0% −3.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2017 2 0 0% −2.00
2016 3 0 0% −3.00
2015 5 1 20% −3.27
2014 3 3 100% +4.90

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 12 3 25% −4.37
NH Flat 1 1 100% +1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
02 Jul 17+88d Curragh Comer Group International Curragh Cup (Group 2) 14f · Good · 7 ran 7/7 42 9-11 10733C77C Pat Smullen 10/1
05 Apr 17+144d Leopardstown Spin 1038 Race 14f · Soft · 7 ran 3/7 ¾ 9-5 10878A79A Pat Smullen 4/5F
12 Nov 16+28d Saint-Cloud (FR) Prix Denisy () (3yo+) (Turf) 15.5f · Heavy · 11 ran 2/11 ½ 9-2 ——— Pat Smullen 13/5F
15 Oct 16+20d Ascot Qipco British Champions Long Distance Cup (Group 2) Class 1 · 16f · Good · 10 ran 7/10 hd 9-7 11260B84A Pat Smullen 8/1
25 Sep 16+344d Curragh Sycamore Lodge Equine Hospital Loughbrown Stakes (listed) 16f · Heavy · 10 ran 2/10 ½ 9-9 112113A98A Pat Smullen 13/8F
17 Oct 15+34d Ascot Qipco British Champions Long Distance Cup (Group 2) Class 1 · 16f · Good To Soft · 13 ran 8/13 shd 9-7 114—86A Pat Smullen 9/2J
13 Sep 15+77d Curragh (IRE) Palmerstown House Estate Irish St. Leger 14f · Good · 11 ran 5/11 1 9-11 114—90A Pat Smullen 9/2
28 Jun 15+10d Curragh (IRE) At The Races Curragh Cup 14f · Good · 6 ran 4/6 hd 10-0 116—96B Pat Smullen 8/13F
18 Jun 15+32d Ascot Gold Cup (British Champions Series) (Group 1) Class 1 · 20f · Good To Firm · 12 ran 3/12 nk 9-2 116—92A Pat Smullen 5/2F
17 May 15+211d Navan (IRE) Coolmore Vintage Crop Stakes 14f · Good · 8 ran 1/8 9-8 113—101A Pat Smullen 8/11F
18 Oct 14+78d Ascot Qipco British Champions Long Distance Cup (Group 2) Class 1 · 16f · Heavy · 9 ran 1/9 9-7 ——101A Pat Smullen 3/1
01 Aug 14+94d Galway Guinness Race 14f · Soft · 6 ran 1/6 9-5 ——99B Pat Smullen 9/10F
29 Apr 14 Punchestown Finlay Motor Group Flat Race 16f · Good · 18 ran 1/18 11-7 ——146A Robbie McNamara EvensF

Quick answers

How many races has Forgotten Rules (IRE) won?
Forgotten Rules (IRE) won 4 of 13 archived starts between 2014 and 2017, a strike rate of 30.8%. Placed 7 times in total (53.8% of starts).
Who trained Forgotten Rules (IRE)?
Forgotten Rules (IRE) was trained by D K Weld on the most recent run on record, at Curragh on 2 July 2017.
Who is Forgotten Rules (IRE)'s sire?
Forgotten Rules (IRE) is by Nayef (USA) out of Utterly Heaven (IRE), whose sire is Danehill.
What going does Forgotten Rules (IRE) prefer?
Forgotten Rules (IRE) has the best record on good going: 2 wins from 6 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Forgotten Rules (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 107, from the run on 2 July 2017. The highest on record is 116.
What is Forgotten Rules (IRE)'s sire's record?
Nayef (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 10% of 5,634 runs since Jan 2008 (518 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 6% from 216.
Who are Forgotten Rules (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Utterly Heaven (IRE), Forgotten Rules (IRE) has 6 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Nostra Casa (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Listed (Vintage Nouveau (IRE)). The wins came over 1m2f–2m½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from April 2014. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.