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Forthefirstime (GB)

3yo filly (at last run, Aug 2008) · Last trainer John M Oxx · Last owner Byerley Thoroughbred Racing
by Dr Fong (USA) out of Gazebo (GB) (Cadeaux Genereux)
7 runs · 3 courses · from Aug 2007
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 30 Aug 2008 — 6,625 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2008 · 11th of 11 Won at Curragh Last raced off OR 94
KTB Profile

Forthefirstime (GB) is 1 from 7, including a Listed win. The biggest win we hold: the Flame Of Tara EBF Stakes at Curragh (Sep 2007). Hasn't won since Sep 2007.

Based on 7 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026

Progeny in our archive

Produce record

As a dam, Forthefirstime (GB) has 8 produce in the archive, 6 winners — most wins Highland Premiere (GB) (3 wins).

The wins came over 5f–1m4f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Highland Premiere (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Highland Premiere (GB)1636f–1mClass 3
Belle Travers (GB)1827f–1m2fClass 5
Time And Place (GB)1325f–6fClass 4
Beautiful Eyes (GB)1425fClass 4
Horsefly (IRE)1121m2f–1m4fClass 5
Violette Szabo (IRE)3011m4fClass 6
Wilde Oscar (IRE)70——
Owl John (GB)20——

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 64A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Leopardstown, 2 Jul 2008 Official rating 94 at the last run, 30 Aug 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 7 figures · best 89C · median 76
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good to Firm389C76—
Standard (AW)1———
Good1———
Soft1———
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
6f – 7f689C77.5—
1m – 1m1f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 7 figures from 7 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Dr Fong (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.4% of 4,593 runs since Jan 2008 (350 horses).

Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 5.1% from 158.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm4736.4%−3—
Good to Firm825829.9%+0.51 from 3
Good1,113998.9%−0.50 from 1
Good to Soft553488.7%−0.7—
Soft648609.3%−0.10 from 1
Heavy227229.7%+0.30 from 1
Standard (AW)1,17911910.1%+0.70 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1531610.5%+1.1—
6f – 7f915869.4%01 from 6
1m – 1m1f890798.9%−0.50 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f1,0901049.5%+0.1—
1m5f – 2m9609710.1%+0.7—
2m1f – 2m4f3994010%+0.6—
2m5f – 3m15885.1%−4.3—
Over 3m28310.7%+1.3—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Gazebo (GB) (Cadeaux Genereux)

6 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Oat Cuisine (GB) (5 wins).

The wins came over 5f–1m2f; the highest grade won is Listed (Pyman's Theory (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Oat Cuisine (GB)1651m–1m2fClass 3
Pyman's Theory (IRE)1025fListed
Mollyvator (IRE)716fClass 5
Enhancement (IRE)30——
Qallaab (IRE)70——
Next Generation (IRE)30——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Firm 3 1 33% +1.50
Standard (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Curragh 4 1 25% +0.50
Leopardstown 2 0 0% −2.00
Dundalk (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 6 1 17% −1.50
1m – 1m1f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Fran Berry 4 1 25% +0.50
Mick Kinane 3 0 0% −3.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 5 1 20% −0.50
Blinkers 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2008 4 0 0% −4.00
2007 3 1 33% +1.50

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
30 Aug 08+34d Dundalk (AW) Ruby Stakes (listed) 8f · Standard · 11 ran 11/11 3½ 9-1 9457C Fran Berry 10/1
27 Jul 08+25d Curragh Irish Stallion Farms EBF Sweet Mimosa Stakes (Fills Listed) 6f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 10/13 1¼ 9-1 9458A Fran Berry 16/1
02 Jul 08+28d Leopardstown Irish Stallion Farms EBF Brownstown Stakes (Fillies Group 3) 7f · Good · 12 ran 11/12 1 8-12 9464A Fran Berry 8/1
04 Jun 08+263d Leopardstown Ballyogan Stakes (Fillies Group 3) 6f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 6/10 1¼ 8-12 9976A Mick Kinane 9/1
15 Sep 07+21d Curragh Flame Of Tara EBF Stakes (Fillies Listed) 6f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 1/9 8-12 —89C Fran Berry 7/2J
25 Aug 07+13d Curragh Loder Ebf (fillies) Race 7f · Soft · 8 ran 2/8 2½ 9-0 —79C Mick Kinane 9/4F
12 Aug 07 Curragh Grangecon Stud EBF Maiden 6f · Soft To Heavy · 21 ran 4/21 2½ 8-12 —81C Mick Kinane 13/2

Quick answers

How many races has Forthefirstime (GB) won?
Forthefirstime (GB) won 1 of 7 archived starts between 2007 and 2008, a strike rate of 14.3%. Placed 2 times in total (28.6% of starts).
Who trained Forthefirstime (GB)?
Forthefirstime (GB) was trained by John M Oxx on the most recent run on record, at Dundalk (AW) on 30 August 2008.
Who is Forthefirstime (GB)'s sire?
Forthefirstime (GB) is by Dr Fong (USA) out of Gazebo (GB), whose sire is Cadeaux Genereux.
What going does Forthefirstime (GB) prefer?
Forthefirstime (GB) has the best record on good to firm going: 1 win from 3 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Forthefirstime (GB)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 94, from the run on 30 August 2008. The highest on record is 99.
What is Forthefirstime (GB)'s sire's record?
Dr Fong (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.4% of 4,593 runs since Jan 2008 (350 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 5.1% from 158.
Who are Forthefirstime (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Gazebo (GB), Forthefirstime (GB) has 6 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Oat Cuisine (GB) (5). Highest grade won: Listed (Pyman's Theory (IRE)). The wins came over 5f–1m2f. As at Oct 2026.
Has Forthefirstime (GB) produced winners?
As a dam, Forthefirstime (GB) has 8 produce in our archive, 6 of them winners. Most wins: Highland Premiere (GB) (3). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Highland Premiere (GB)). The wins came over 5f–1m4f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from August 2007. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.