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Forward Thinking (IRE)

5yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2025) · Trainer Olly Murphy · Owner Adrian Butler
by Elusive Pimpernel (USA) out of Def It Vic (IRE) (Definite Article)
3 runs · 3 courses · from Dec 2024
As at 25 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
Last run 5 Nov 2025
KTB Profile

Forward Thinking is a gelding by Elusive Pimpernel out of a Definite Article mare who has yet to win from three starts on turf. All three runs came over 1m5f to 2m on good to soft going at three different courses. His best effort came when third of seven at Market Rasen in Feb 2025. He last ran in the Angela Nettlefold Memorial National Hunt Maiden Hurdle at Chepstow in Nov 2025.

Based on 3 archived runs · run-style from 2 commented runs since Dec 2024 · updated 25 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 111 the best of the last 2 graded (A or B) runs · Market Rasen, 18 Feb 2025

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 111A · median 104.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 25 Oct 2025
Good to Soft2111A104.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 25 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m2111A104.5—

Of 3 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 3 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 127B the best of the last 2 rated runs · Market Rasen, 18 Feb 2025

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 127B · median 126.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 25 Oct 2025
Good to Soft2127B126.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 25 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m2127B126.5—

Of 3 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 7.7% of 3,131 runs since Jan 2008 (315 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm200%−7.7—
Good to Firm11797.7%0—
Good966889.1%+1.4—
Good to Soft509336.5%−1.20 from 3
Soft895667.4%−0.3—
Heavy394246.1%−1.6—
Standard (AW)248208.1%+0.4—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f2100%−7.7—
6f – 7f208209.6%+1.9—
1m – 1m1f315288.9%+1.2—
1m2f – 1m4f303155%−2.7—
1m5f – 2m980717.2%−0.50 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f853607%−0.7—
2m5f – 3m3814010.5%+2.8—
Over 3m7068.6%+0.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 24 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Def It Vic (IRE) (Definite Article)

2 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them A Definite Getaway (IRE) (4 wins).

The wins came over 2m4f–3m1f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (A Definite Getaway (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
A Definite Getaway (IRE)2342m4f–3m1fClass 4
Run Suzie Run (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Chepstow 1 0 0% −1.00
Market Rasen 1 0 0% −1.00
Warwick 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2025 2 0 0% −2.00
2024 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00
Hurdle 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2025 · 2 runs
05 Nov 25+260d Chepstow Angela Nettlefold Memorial 'National Hunt' Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) (Div 2) Class 4 · 16f · Good To Soft · 13 ran Fell at the 1st F/13 — 11-4 —— Sean Bowen 22/1
18 Feb 25+68d Market Rasen Racing TV Profits Returned To Racing Open Maiden NH Flat Race (GBB Race) Class 5 · 16.5f · Good To Soft · 7 ran Settled midpack early - moved into 3rd with a lap left - driven on with 3f remaining and kept on at an even effort to finish 3rd 3/7 3½ 11-7 111A127B Sean Bowen EvensF
2024 · 1 run
12 Dec 24 Warwick Wrights Of Campden Open NH Flat Race (GBB Race) Class 5 · 16f · Good To Soft · 12 ran Settled towards the back - urged forward with 2f left - finished full of running in the closing stages to take 4th 4/12 nk 11-2 98A126A Sean Bowen 8/1

Quick answers

How many races has Forward Thinking won?
Forward Thinking (IRE) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts between 2024 and 2025.
Who trains Forward Thinking?
Forward Thinking (IRE) is trained by Olly Murphy, who saddled the horse on its most recent run on 5 November 2025.
Who is Forward Thinking's sire?
Forward Thinking (IRE) is by Elusive Pimpernel (USA) out of Def It Vic (IRE), whose sire is Definite Article.
What is Forward Thinking's sire's record?
Elusive Pimpernel (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.7% of 3,131 runs since Jan 2008 (315 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Forward Thinking's siblings?
Out of Def It Vic (IRE), Forward Thinking (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: A Definite Getaway (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Class 4 (A Definite Getaway (IRE)). The wins came over 2m4f–3m1f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from December 2024. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.