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Horse profile

Generous John (GB)

4yo gelding (at last run, Dec 2012) · Last trainer Anthony Middleton · Last owner Racing Roses Partnership
by Generous (IRE) out of Nothings Forever (GB) (Oats)
5 runs · 5 courses · from May 2012
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 16 Dec 2012 — 5,049 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Dec 2012 · 7th of 9
KTB Profile

Generous John (GB) is yet to win from 5 starts.

Based on 5 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Sep 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 91C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Ludlow, 15 Nov 2012

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Jumps 4 figures · best 91C · median 82.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Good391C80—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m491C82.5—

Of 5 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 5 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Generous (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.7% of 3,332 runs since Jan 2008 (251 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm9111.1%+0.4—
Good to Firm3353410.1%−0.6—
Good1,1511149.9%−0.80 from 3
Good to Soft5667112.5%+1.80 from 1
Soft7407610.3%−0.4—
Heavy2763512.7%+20 from 1
Standard (AW)255249.4%−1.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f2328.7%−2—
1m – 1m1f7211.4%−9.3—
1m2f – 1m4f285258.8%−1.9—
1m5f – 2m1,10113212%+1.30 from 5
2m1f – 2m4f1,01811711.5%+0.8—
2m5f – 3m663578.6%−2.1—
Over 3m1702112.4%+1.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Nothings Forever (GB) (Oats)

5 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Keyneema (GB) (2 wins).

The wins came over 2m; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Keyneema (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Keyneema (GB)3622mClass 4
Eterna (GB)412mClass 6
Barclay Boy (GB)130——
Honest (GB)80——
Nothing Personal (GB)90——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 3 0 0% −3.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 6 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Hereford 1 0 0% −1.00
Ludlow 1 0 0% −1.00
Wincanton 1 0 0% −1.00
Huntingdon 1 0 0% −1.00
Uttoxeter 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Dave Crosse 2 0 0% −2.00
James Banks 2 0 0% −2.00
Mark Marris 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 3 0 0% −3.00
Tongue tie 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 3 0 0% −3.00
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
16 Dec 12+31d Hereford Free Radio Conditional Jockeys' Selling Hurdle Class 5 · 16f · Heavy · 9 ran 7/9 28 10-4 85C Mark Marris 50/1
15 Nov 12+5d Ludlow Bet With The Ludlow On Course Bookmakers Maiden Hurdle Class 5 · 16f · Good · 15 ran 15/15 34 11-0 91C Dave Crosse 200/1
10 Nov 12+25d Wincanton Bet Totescoop6 Text Tote To 89660 E.b.f. 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle (qualifier) Class 3 · 15.5f · Good To Soft · 14 ran PU/14 — 10-5 — James Banks 100/1
16 Oct 12+150d Huntingdon MediForce.org Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 16f · Good · 12 ran 11/12 8 10-7 80C James Banks 66/1
19 May 12 Uttoxeter Uttoxeter Annual Members Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 16f · Good · 10 ran 8/10 7 10-10 79A Dave Crosse 7/1

Quick answers

How many races has Generous John (GB) won?
Generous John (GB) has yet to win, from 5 archived starts in 2012.
Who trained Generous John (GB)?
Generous John (GB) was trained by Anthony Middleton on the most recent run on record, at Hereford on 16 December 2012.
Who is Generous John (GB)'s sire?
Generous John (GB) is by Generous (IRE) out of Nothings Forever (GB), whose sire is Oats.
What is Generous John (GB)'s sire's record?
Generous (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.7% of 3,332 runs since Jan 2008 (251 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Generous John (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Nothings Forever (GB), Generous John (GB) has 5 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Keyneema (GB) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Keyneema (GB)). The wins came over 2m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2012. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.