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Horse profile

Goodbuy Or Goodbye (IRE)

5yo gelding (at last run, Dec 2008) · Last trainer A L T Moore · Last owner John P Mcmanus
by Supreme Leader (GB) out of Hi Native (IRE) (Be My Native)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Nov 2008
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 26 Dec 2008 — 6,522 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Dec 2008 · 18th of 19
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Nov 2008 and Dec 2008, the last of them as a 5yo gelding. Finished 18 of 19 at Down Royal last time. By Supreme Leader (GB), whose progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 2,984 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 103C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Navan, 23 Nov 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 103C · median 97.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Soft1———
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f1———
1m5f – 2m1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Supreme Leader (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 2,984 runs since Jan 2008 (349 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2627.7%−1.5—
Good to Firm184189.8%+0.6—
Good665578.6%−0.6—
Good to Soft470449.4%+0.2—
Soft885859.6%+0.40 from 1
Heavy744668.9%−0.30 from 1
Standard (AW)10220%+10.8—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m2f – 1m4f900%−9.2—
1m5f – 2m575559.6%+0.40 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f1,0661059.8%+0.60 from 1
2m5f – 3m1,019918.9%−0.3—
Over 3m315237.3%−1.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Hi Native (IRE) (Be My Native)

5 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Gilgamboa (IRE) (9 wins).

The wins came over 2m–3m1f; the highest grade won is Grade 1 (Gilgamboa (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Gilgamboa (IRE)2092m–3m1fGrade 1
Stealthy Tom (IRE)3772m1f–3m1fListed
Black Mac (IRE)3122m4f–2m4½fClass 5
Manger Et Trotter (IRE)912m3½f—
No Notions (IRE)612m6f—

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2008 · 2 runs
26 Dec 08+33d Down Royal I.n.h. Stallion Owners Ebf Maiden Hurdle 2m4f · Soft · 19 ran 18/19 30 10-13 92C Mr S G Carey 25/1
23 Nov 08 Navan Irish Stallion Farms Ebf Maiden Hurdle 2m · Heavy · 27 ran 26/27 2½ 11-12 103C Kevin Coleman 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Goodbuy Or Goodbye won?
Goodbuy Or Goodbye (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2008.
Who trained Goodbuy Or Goodbye?
Goodbuy Or Goodbye (IRE) was trained by A L T Moore on the most recent run on record, at Down Royal on 26 December 2008.
Who is Goodbuy Or Goodbye's sire?
Goodbuy Or Goodbye (IRE) is by Supreme Leader (GB) out of Hi Native (IRE), whose sire is Be My Native.
What is Goodbuy Or Goodbye's sire's record?
Supreme Leader (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 2,984 runs since Jan 2008 (349 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Goodbuy Or Goodbye's siblings?
Out of Hi Native (IRE), Goodbuy Or Goodbye (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Gilgamboa (IRE) (9). Highest grade won: Grade 1 (Gilgamboa (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–3m1f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from November 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.