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Horse profile

Ice And Water (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2008) · Last trainer Ian Duncan · Last owner Ronald Lilley
by Muroto (GB) out of The Red Wench (IRE) (Aahsaylad)
2 runs · 2 courses · from May 2007
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 17 Mar 2008 — 6,806 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2008 · 9th of 13
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between May 2007 and Mar 2008, the last of them as a 6yo gelding. Finished 9 of 13 at Down Royal last time. By Muroto (GB), whose progeny in our archive have won 9% of 167 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 99C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Navan, 20 May 2007

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 99C · median 89.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Soft1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m299C89.5—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Muroto (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 9% of 167 runs since Jan 2008 (25 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm200%−9—
Good to Firm1317.7%−1.30 from 1
Good5335.7%−3.3—
Good to Soft2827.1%−1.9—
Soft45920%+110 from 1
Heavy2600%−9—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m5f – 2m2300%−90 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f5846.9%−2.1—
2m5f – 3m5159.8%+0.8—
Over 3m35617.1%+8.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
The Red Wench (IRE) (Aahsaylad)

3 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Definitly Red (IRE) (15 wins).

The wins came over 2m–3m2f; the highest grade won is Grade 2 (Definitly Red (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Definitly Red (IRE)38152m–3m2fGrade 2
Heaney (IRE)3562m6f–3mClass 1
Priors Glen (IRE)140——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2008 · 1 run
17 Mar 08+302d Down Royal Bass (pro/am) Inh Flat Race 2m · Soft · 13 ran 9/13 1¼ 11-7 80C Chris Timmons 12/1
2007 · 1 run
20 May 07 Navan Meath (pro-am) Inh Flat Race 2m · Good To Firm · 25 ran 8/25 1½ 11-6 99C Mr M J O'Hare 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Ice And Water won?
Ice And Water (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts between 2007 and 2008.
Who trained Ice And Water?
Ice And Water (IRE) was trained by Ian Duncan on the most recent run on record, at Down Royal on 17 March 2008.
Who is Ice And Water's sire?
Ice And Water (IRE) is by Muroto (GB) out of The Red Wench (IRE), whose sire is Aahsaylad.
What is Ice And Water's sire's record?
Muroto (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 9% of 167 runs since Jan 2008 (25 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Ice And Water's siblings?
Out of The Red Wench (IRE), Ice And Water (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Definitly Red (IRE) (15). Highest grade won: Grade 2 (Definitly Red (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–3m2f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from May 2007. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.