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Horse profile

I'm Just Saying (GB)

2yo filly (at last run, Oct 2015) · Last trainer Clive Cox · Last owner Mrs Olive Shaw
by Sakhee's Secret (GB) out of Ice Haven (IRE) (Verglas)
4 runs · 3 courses · from Jun 2015
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 6 Oct 2015 — 4,039 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2015 · 11th of 14 Last raced off OR 55
KTB Profile

I'm Just Saying (GB) is yet to win from 4 starts. Best effort: 4th of 11 at Lingfield (AW) (Jul 2015).

Based on 4 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 52A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Lingfield (AW), 22 Jul 2015 Official rating 55 at the last run, 6 Oct 2015

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 4 figures · best 52A · median 49
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)352A51—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
6f – 7f452A49—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 4 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 8.8% of 3,866 runs since Jan 2008 (253 horses).

Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 12.3% from 772.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm611219.7%+10.9—
Good to Firm783779.8%+1—
Good730456.2%−2.60 from 1
Good to Soft344277.8%−1—
Soft362339.1%+0.3—
Heavy881112.5%+3.7—
Standard (AW)1,4981348.9%+0.10 from 3
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f7729512.3%+3.5—
6f – 7f1,6781398.3%−0.50 from 4
1m – 1m1f732537.2%−1.6—
1m2f – 1m4f398287%−1.8—
1m5f – 2m188189.6%+0.8—
2m1f – 2m4f7256.9%−1.9—
2m5f – 3m2015%−3.8—
Over 3m600%−8.8—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Ice Haven (IRE) (Verglas)

8 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Graphite Storm (GB) (4 wins).

The wins came over 6f–7f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Graphite Storm (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Graphite Storm (GB)2546f–7fClass 3
Company Minx (IRE)4646fClass 5
Goldie Bear (IRE)60——
Funky Bear (IRE)10——
Three Sixteen (IRE)60——
Ice'o'lation (IRE)40——
Sister Mila (IRE)60——
Reigning Ice (GB)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Lingfield (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Goodwood 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
John Fahy 3 0 0% −3.00
Ryan Tate 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2015 · 4 runs
06 Oct 15+41d Kempton (AW) iInsure365 Nursery Class 6 · 7f · Standard To Slow · 14 ran 11/14 2¾ 8-13 5543A Ryan Tate 14/1
26 Aug 15+35d Lingfield (AW) Residents Insurance Services Median Auction Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Plus 10) Class 5 · 7f · Standard · 10 ran 8/10 2 9-0 —51A John Fahy 8/1
22 Jul 15+40d Lingfield (AW) Brightstar Centre Of The Wireless Ecosystem Maiden Auction Stakes Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 11 ran 4/11 ¾ 8-6 —52A John Fahy 7/1
12 Jun 15 Goodwood Crimbourne Stud Maiden Auction Stakes (Plus10) Class 4 · 6f · Good · 6 ran 4/6 3¾ 8-6 —47B John Fahy 10/1

Quick answers

How many races has I'm Just Saying won?
I'm Just Saying (GB) has yet to win, from 4 archived starts in 2015.
Who trained I'm Just Saying?
I'm Just Saying (GB) was trained by Clive Cox on the most recent run on record, at Kempton (AW) on 6 October 2015.
Who is I'm Just Saying's sire?
I'm Just Saying (GB) is by Sakhee's Secret (GB) out of Ice Haven (IRE), whose sire is Verglas.
What is I'm Just Saying's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 55, from the run on 6 October 2015. That is also the highest on record.
What is I'm Just Saying's sire's record?
Sakhee's Secret (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.8% of 3,866 runs since Jan 2008 (253 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 12.3% from 772.
Who are I'm Just Saying's siblings?
Out of Ice Haven (IRE), I'm Just Saying (GB) has 8 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Graphite Storm (GB) (4). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Graphite Storm (GB)). The wins came over 6f–7f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from June 2015. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.