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It's Debatable (IRE)

3yo gelding · Trainer Edward Bethell · Owner Clarendon Thoroughbred Racing
by Sottsass (FR) out of Shelter Island (FR) (Le Havre)
4 runs · 3 courses · from Apr 2026
As at 18 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
Off 95 days · 2nd of 4 Last raced off OR 80
KTB Profile

It's Debatable is a gelding by Sottsass out of a Le Havre mare who has shown placed form from four turf starts. He has never won, with one placing from four runs, and his best effort came when second of four at Beverley in Jul 2026 in a Class 4 handicap off a mark of 80. He has raced twice over 1m2f – 1m4f and twice over 1m – 1m1f, on both good to firm and good ground. His last run, at Beverley in Jul 2026, was off an official rating of 80.

Based on 4 archived runs · run-style from 3 commented runs · updated 18 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 102 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Redcar, 7 May 2026

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 4 figures · best 102A · median 85
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
Good to Firm293C83.52 · 93 / 83.5
Good2102A89.52 · 102 / 89.5
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f293C852 · 93 / 85
1m – 1m1f2102A882 · 102 / 88

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 4 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 88B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Hamilton, 25 Jun 2026 Official rating 80 at the last run, 14 Jul 2026

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 4 figures · best 88B · median 76
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
Good to Firm288B83.52 · 88 / 83.5
Good273A702 · 73 / 70
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f279B732 · 79 / 73
1m – 1m1f288B80.52 · 88 / 80.5

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 4 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style from 3 analysed runs

  • Midfield 2 (67%) · 0 wins
  • Held up 1 (33%) · 0 wins

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 11.7% of 666 runs since Jan 2008 (107 horses).

Strongest on standard (aw) going: 15.8% from 190. Weakest on soft going: 8.5% from 130. Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 8.7% from 207.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm300%−11.7—
Good to Firm56916.1%+4.40 from 2
Good174169.2%−2.50 from 2
Good to Soft8478.3%−3.4—
Soft130118.5%−3.2—
Heavy28517.9%+6.2—
Standard (AW)1903015.8%+4.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f100%−11.7—
6f – 7f1391611.5%−0.2—
1m – 1m1f207188.7%−30 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f2603413.1%+1.40 from 2
1m5f – 2m53815.1%+3.4—
2m1f – 2m4f6233.3%+21.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 18 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Shelter Island (FR) (Le Havre)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Dixmude (IRE)40——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Beverley 2 0 0% −2.00
Hamilton 1 0 0% −1.00
Redcar 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m2f – 1m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
1m – 1m1f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Connor Beasley 3 0 0% −3.00
Callum Rodriguez 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
14 Jul 26+19d Beverley Malcolm Greenslade Doncaster LVA Stalwart Memorial Handicap Stakes Class 4 · 10f · Good To Firm · 4 ran in touch with the pacesetter early - driven along from 2f out - set up a prolonged fight from 1f out - stayed on strongly inside the final furlong but unable to get to grips with the winner 2/4 ½ 9-9 8093C79B Connor Beasley 7/4
25 Jun 26+49d Hamilton Indigo Unified Comms Maiden Stakes (GBB Race) Class 4 · 9f · Good To Firm · 7 ran Settled just behind front group in 4th - made ground from 3f out to hit front 2f out - drifted left approaching final furlong - challenged inside last - caught close home for second 2/7 nk 9-5 —74A88B Connor Beasley 15/2
07 May 26+14d Redcar racingtv.com Novice Stakes (GBB Race) Class 4 · 8f · Good · 10 ran Held a midfield position early - roused for effort 3f from home - found some late gears inside final furlong - clipped by rivals 110yds out and unable to close the gap 4/10 ½ 9-3 —102A73A Connor Beasley 33/1
23 Apr 26 Beverley Book Attraction Restaurant Online Restricted Maiden Stakes (GBB Race) Class 4 · 10f · Good · 8 ran Settled mid-pack - pressed for headway approaching final 2f - soon outpaced - finished sixth 6/8 2¾ 9-7 —77A67A Callum Rodriguez 9/1

Quick answers

How many races has It's Debatable (IRE) won?
It's Debatable (IRE) has yet to win, from 4 archived starts in 2026. Placed 1 time in total (25% of starts).
Who trains It's Debatable (IRE)?
It's Debatable (IRE) is trained by Edward Bethell, who saddled the horse on its most recent run on 14 July 2026.
Who is It's Debatable (IRE)'s sire?
It's Debatable (IRE) is by Sottsass (FR) out of Shelter Island (FR), whose sire is Le Havre.
What is It's Debatable (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 80, from the run on 14 July 2026. That is also the highest on record.
What is It's Debatable (IRE)'s sire's record?
Sottsass (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.7% of 666 runs since Jan 2008 (107 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on standard (aw) going: 15.8% from 190. Weakest on soft going: 8.5% from 130. Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 8.7% from 207.
Who are It's Debatable (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Shelter Island (FR), It's Debatable (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from April 2026. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.