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Horse profile

Joy Will Tell You (GB)

2yo filly (at last run, Oct 2005) · Last trainer Malcolm Saunders · Last owner C Scott T Leigh
by Piccolo (GB) out of Magical Dancer (IRE) (Magical Wonder)
3 runs · 2 courses · from Jul 2005
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 9 Oct 2005 — 7,696 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2005 · 8th of 9
KTB Profile

Joy Will Tell You (GB) is yet to win from 3 starts.

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 54C the best of the last 1 rated run · Bath, 9 Oct 2005

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 3 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1) · no runner of known ability in the race — the level cannot be solved (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Piccolo (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.8% of 6,904 runs since Jan 2008 (393 horses).

Strongest on firm going: 11.6% from 164. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 3.5% from 258.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1641911.6%+3.80 from 1
Good to Firm1,412956.7%−1.10 from 1
Good1,224836.8%−10 from 1
Good to Soft569417.2%−0.6—
Soft506377.3%−0.5—
Heavy140139.3%+1.5—
Standard (AW)2,8892498.6%+0.8—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f2,4042359.8%+20 from 1
6f – 7f3,0742227.2%−0.60 from 1
1m – 1m1f690456.5%−1.30 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f353205.7%−2.1—
1m5f – 2m25893.5%−4.3—
2m1f – 2m4f11065.5%−2.3—
2m5f – 3m1400%−7.8—
Over 3m100%−7.8—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Magical Dancer (IRE) (Magical Wonder)

6 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Lipocco (GB) (3 wins).

The wins came over 5f–6f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Lipocco (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Lipocco (GB)2835f–6fClass 2
Ms Arsenal (GB)70——
Saunders Encore (GB)30——
Impasse Carraire (GB)20——
Violetgrace (GB)20——
Stanwell (GB)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00
Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 6 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Bath 2 0 0% −2.00
Brighton 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m – 1m1f 1 0 0% −1.00
6f – 7f 1 0 0% −1.00
Under 6f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Micky Fenton 2 0 0% −2.00
Franny Norton 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2005 · 3 runs
09 Oct 05+68d Bath Western Daily Press Race Club Maiden Stakes (Div 1) Class 5 · 1m · Good To Firm · 9 ran 8/9 1¼ 8-9 54C Micky Fenton 100/1
02 Aug 05+12d Brighton Classiceventmarquees.co.uk Maiden Auction Stakes Class 5 · 7f · Good · 13 ran PU/13 30 8-3 — Franny Norton 66/1
21 Jul 05 Bath City Motors & S.J. Cook & Sons Median Auction Maiden Stakes Class 6 · 5½f · Firm · 11 ran 10/11 10 8-9 — Micky Fenton 33/1

Quick answers

How many races has Joy Will Tell You won?
Joy Will Tell You (GB) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts in 2005.
Who trained Joy Will Tell You?
Joy Will Tell You (GB) was trained by Malcolm Saunders on the most recent run on record, at Bath on 9 October 2005.
Who is Joy Will Tell You's sire?
Joy Will Tell You (GB) is by Piccolo (GB) out of Magical Dancer (IRE), whose sire is Magical Wonder.
What is Joy Will Tell You's sire's record?
Piccolo (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.8% of 6,904 runs since Jan 2008 (393 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on firm going: 11.6% from 164. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 3.5% from 258.
Who are Joy Will Tell You's siblings?
Out of Magical Dancer (IRE), Joy Will Tell You (GB) has 6 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Lipocco (GB) (3). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Lipocco (GB)). The wins came over 5f–6f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from July 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.