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Horse profile

Making Overtures (GB)

6yo mare (at last run, May 2008) · Last trainer John Groucott · Last owner Mrs M R Winwood
by Overbury (IRE) out of Random Romance (GB) (Eric I)
7 runs · 6 courses · from Dec 2007
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 7 May 2008 — 6,747 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2008 · 12th of 15 Last raced off OR 68
KTB Profile

Making Overtures (GB) is yet to win from 7 starts. Best effort: 4th of 6 at Uttoxeter (Apr 2008). Last raced off a career-high mark of 68.

Based on 7 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR at career high
Official rating68At career-high mark
68 68–68

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 66C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Bangor-on-Dee, 25 Apr 2008 Official rating 68 at the last run, 7 May 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 5 figures · best 67C · median 65
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good267C66—
Good to Firm1———
Good to Soft1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f467C64.5—
1m5f – 2m1———

Of 7 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 7 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Overbury (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.7% of 4,657 runs since Jan 2008 (423 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm17211.8%+1.1—
Good to Firm385379.6%−1.10 from 1
Good1,45815010.3%−0.40 from 2
Good to Soft898899.9%−0.80 from 2
Soft1,14412611%+0.30 from 2
Heavy6908712.6%+1.9—
Standard (AW)6569.2%−1.5—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1000%−10.7—
6f – 7f20210%−0.7—
1m – 1m1f1616.3%−4.4—
1m2f – 1m4f29517.2%+6.5—
1m5f – 2m1,32113510.2%−0.50 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f1,64717610.7%00 from 4
2m5f – 3m1,25813610.8%+0.10 from 1
Over 3m3564211.8%+1.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Random Romance (GB) (Eric I)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Overamorous (GB)100——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 3 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Ludlow 2 0 0% −2.00
Huntingdon 1 0 0% −1.00
Bangor-on-Dee 1 0 0% −1.00
Uttoxeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Leicester 1 0 0% −1.00
Towcester 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 4 0 0% −4.00
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Gareth Thomas 5 0 0% −5.00
Lee Edwards 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2008 6 0 0% −6.00
2007 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2008 · 6 runs
07 May 08+12d Huntingdon Turftv Handicap Chase Class 4 · 20f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 12/15 26 9-11 6858C Gareth Thomas 100/1
25 Apr 08+13d Bangor-on-Dee Weatherbys Bank Novices' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 20.5f · Good To Soft · 13 ran 8/13 nk 9-11 6866C Gareth Thomas 66/1
12 Apr 08+23d Uttoxeter Shearstud Shear Connector Supplier Novices' Chase Class 4 · 20f · Soft · 6 ran 4/6 1 9-12 6863C Gareth Thomas 80/1
20 Mar 08+21d Ludlow Alfa Aggregates Products Novices' Chase Class 3 · 16f · Good · 7 ran 5/7 19 9-12 6865C Gareth Thomas 150/1
28 Feb 08+51d Ludlow E.B.F./TBA Mares' Novices' Chase (Qualifier) Class 3 · 20f · Good · 6 ran 6/6 7 10-5 6867C Lee Edwards 150/1
08 Jan 08+13d Leicester Groby Beginners' Chase Class 4 · 16f · Good To Soft · 9 ran UR/9 — 10-0 —— Lee Edwards 150/1
2007 · 1 run
26 Dec 07 Towcester Betrescue Antepostmag.com Beginners' Chase Class 5 · 21.5f · Soft · 13 ran PU/13 — 10-0 —— Gareth Thomas 100/1

Quick answers

How many races has Making Overtures won?
Making Overtures (GB) has yet to win, from 7 archived starts between 2007 and 2008.
Who trained Making Overtures?
Making Overtures (GB) was trained by John Groucott on the most recent run on record, at Huntingdon on 7 May 2008.
Who is Making Overtures's sire?
Making Overtures (GB) is by Overbury (IRE) out of Random Romance (GB), whose sire is Eric I.
What is Making Overtures's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 68, from the run on 7 May 2008. That is also the highest on record.
What is Making Overtures's sire's record?
Overbury (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.7% of 4,657 runs since Jan 2008 (423 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Making Overtures's siblings?
Out of Random Romance (GB), Making Overtures (GB) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from December 2007. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.