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Horse profile

Making Trouble (GER)

6yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2018) · Last trainer Andreas Suborics · Last owner Lebeau Racing Sebastian J Weiss
by Paco Boy (IRE) out of Making Hay (GB) (Dr Fong)
3 runs · 3 courses · from Nov 2017
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 26 Sep 2018 — 2,947 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2018 · 3rd of 10
KTB Profile

Making Trouble (GER) is yet to win from 3 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 3rd of 10 at Maisons-Laffitte (FR) (Sep 2018).

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 101 the best of the last 1 graded (A or B) run · Lingfield (AW), 18 Nov 2017

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 1 run · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 77A the best of the last 1 rated run · Lingfield (AW), 18 Nov 2017 Official rating 104 at the last run, 18 Nov 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 1 run · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 3,449 runs since Jan 2008 (269 horses).

Weakest on heavy going: 3.9% from 103.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2414.2%−5—
Good to Firm6727511.2%+2—
Good641609.4%+0.2—
Good to Soft405389.4%+0.20 from 1
Soft381256.6%−2.6—
Heavy10343.9%−5.3—
Standard (AW)1,2231139.2%00 from 2
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f434409.2%0—
6f – 7f1,51315110%+0.80 from 3
1m – 1m1f777658.4%−0.8—
1m2f – 1m4f453429.3%+0.1—
1m5f – 2m187147.5%−1.7—
2m1f – 2m4f6945.8%−3.4—
2m5f – 3m1500%−9.2—
Over 3m100%−9.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Making Hay (GB) (Dr Fong)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Mad Max (GER)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 1 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Maisons-Laffitte (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Deauville (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Lingfield (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Mme Coralie Pacaut 1 0 0% −1.00
Alexis Badel 1 0 0% −1.00
Luke Morris 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2018 2 0 0% −2.00
2017 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
26 Sep 18+54d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix d'orgerus (Claimer) (4yo+) (Turf) 7f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 3/10 hd 8-8 ——— Mme Coralie Pacaut 13/1
03 Aug 18+258d Deauville (FR) Prix de Beuzeville (Claimer) (4yo+) (Polytrack) 7.5f · Standard · 15 ran 14/15 1¼ 9-1 ——— Alexis Badel 31/1
18 Nov 17 Lingfield (AW) Betway Golden Rose Stakes (Listed) (Qualifier) Class 1 · 6f · Standard · 10 ran 9/10 ½ 9-3 104101A77A Luke Morris 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Making Trouble (GER) won?
Making Trouble (GER) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts between 2017 and 2018. Placed 1 time in total (33.3% of starts).
Who trained Making Trouble (GER)?
Making Trouble (GER) was trained by Andreas Suborics on the most recent run on record, at Maisons-Laffitte (FR) on 26 September 2018.
Who is Making Trouble (GER)'s sire?
Making Trouble (GER) is by Paco Boy (IRE) out of Making Hay (GB), whose sire is Dr Fong.
What is Making Trouble (GER)'s official rating?
Making Trouble (GER)'s highest official rating on record is 104.
What is Making Trouble (GER)'s sire's record?
Paco Boy (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 3,449 runs since Jan 2008 (269 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on heavy going: 3.9% from 103.
Who are Making Trouble (GER)'s siblings?
Out of Making Hay (GB), Making Trouble (GER) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from November 2017. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.