Mess Around (FR)
Mess Around (FR) is 1 from 7. Hasn't won since Mar 2008.
- 1–7Wins / Runs
- 14.3%Strike rate
- 2 (28.6%)Placed
- −5.00£1 level staken=5 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=5 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 200dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 1,329 runs since Jan 2008 (154 horses).
Strongest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 14.7% from 136.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 4 | 0 | 0% | −9.8 | — |
| Good to Firm | 33 | 4 | 12.1% | +2.3 | — |
| Good | 300 | 28 | 9.3% | −0.5 | 0 from 2 |
| Good to Soft | 195 | 21 | 10.8% | +1 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 337 | 30 | 8.9% | −0.9 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 153 | 14 | 9.2% | −0.6 | 1 from 2 |
| Standard (AW) | 304 | 33 | 10.9% | +1.1 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 10 | 0 | 0% | −9.8 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 136 | 20 | 14.7% | +4.9 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 282 | 22 | 7.8% | −2 | 1 from 2 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 346 | 35 | 10.1% | +0.3 | 0 from 5 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 202 | 18 | 8.9% | −0.9 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 261 | 30 | 11.5% | +1.7 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 85 | 5 | 5.9% | −3.9 | — |
| Over 3m | 7 | 0 | 0% | −9.8 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
3 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Cherubino (FR) (1 win).
The wins came over 1m4f–1m5f.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cherubino (FR) | 2 | 1 | 1m4f | — |
| Dancingwiththestar (FR) | 2 | 1 | 1m5f | — |
| Gumpcity (FR) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Heavy | 2 | 1 | 50% | −1.00 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Saint-Cloud (FR) | 2 | 1 | 50% | −1.00 |
| Maisons-Laffitte (FR) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Saint-Malo (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Longchamp (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Toulouse (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | — |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 2 | 1 | 50% | — |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mr Guy Fanneau de la Horie | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Ioritz Mendizabal | 3 | 1 | 33% | −1.00 |
| Mme Aude Duporte | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2011 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2010 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2008 | 3 | 1 | 33% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 27 May 11+316d | Saint-Cloud (FR) | Prix Du Mesnil-Villement (Claimer) (4yo+) (Lady Riders) (Turf) | 9/10 | 4 | 9-2 | Mme Aude Duporte | 26/1 |
| 15 Jul 10+65d | Maisons-Laffitte (FR) | Prix Du Conseil General Des Yvelines (Prix Henri De Vesian) (Claimer) (Gentlemen riders) (Turf) | 3/11 | 3 | 10-10 | Mr Guy Fanneau de la Horie | 65/1 |
| 11 May 10+16d | Maisons-Laffitte (FR) | Prix Du Conseil General Des Yvelines (Prix Colonel Bernard Marlin) (Claimer) (Gentlemen/Lady Riders) | 8/12 | 5 | 10-2 | Mr Guy Fanneau de la Horie | 62/1 |
| 25 Apr 10+742d | Saint-Malo (FR) | Prix Rene Couetil (Conditions) (4yo+) (Gentlemen Riders) (Turf) | 9/11 | nse | 10-6 | Mr Guy Fanneau de la Horie | 37/1 |
| 13 Apr 08+33d | Longchamp (FR) | SG Private Banking - Prix La Force | 5/7 | 2 | 9-2 | Ioritz Mendizabal | 9/1 |
| 11 Mar 08+27d | Saint-Cloud (FR) | Prix Callistrate (Colts & Geldings) | 1/3 | 9-0 | Ioritz Mendizabal | — | |
| 13 Feb 08 | Toulouse (FR) | Prix Provincial | 4/6 | 1 | 9-4 | Ioritz Mendizabal | — |
Quick answers
- How many races has Mess Around (FR) won?
- Mess Around (FR) won 1 of 7 archived starts between 2008 and 2011, a strike rate of 14.3%. Placed 2 times in total (28.6% of starts).
- Who trained Mess Around (FR)?
- Mess Around (FR) was trained by F Danloux on the most recent run on record, at Saint-Cloud (FR) on 27 May 2011.
- Who is Mess Around (FR)'s sire?
- Mess Around (FR) is by Sagacity (FR) out of Bubba Gump (IRE), whose sire is Charnwood Forest.
- What is Mess Around (FR)'s sire's record?
- Sagacity (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 1,329 runs since Jan 2008 (154 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 14.7% from 136.
- Who are Mess Around (FR)'s siblings?
- Out of Bubba Gump (IRE), Mess Around (FR) has 3 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Cherubino (FR) (1). The wins came over 1m4f–1m5f. As at Oct 2026.