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Horse profile

Mess Around (FR)

6yo gelding (at last run, May 2011) · Last trainer F Danloux · Last owner Guy Fanneau De La Horie
by Sagacity (FR) out of Bubba Gump (IRE) (Charnwood Forest)
7 runs · 5 courses · from Feb 2008
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 27 May 2011 — 5,626 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2011 · 9th of 10 Won at Saint-Cloud (FR)
KTB Profile

Mess Around (FR) is 1 from 7. Hasn't won since Mar 2008.

Based on 7 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

No KTB Rating figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Sagacity (FR)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 1,329 runs since Jan 2008 (154 horses).

Strongest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 14.7% from 136.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm400%−9.8—
Good to Firm33412.1%+2.3—
Good300289.3%−0.50 from 2
Good to Soft1952110.8%+10 from 1
Soft337308.9%−0.90 from 1
Heavy153149.2%−0.61 from 2
Standard (AW)3043310.9%+1.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1000%−9.8—
6f – 7f1362014.7%+4.9—
1m – 1m1f282227.8%−21 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f3463510.1%+0.30 from 5
1m5f – 2m202188.9%−0.9—
2m1f – 2m4f2613011.5%+1.7—
2m5f – 3m8555.9%−3.9—
Over 3m700%−9.8—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Bubba Gump (IRE) (Charnwood Forest)

3 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Cherubino (FR) (1 win).

The wins came over 1m4f–1m5f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Cherubino (FR)211m4f—
Dancingwiththestar (FR)211m5f—
Gumpcity (FR)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Heavy 2 1 50% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Saint-Cloud (FR) 2 1 50% −1.00
Maisons-Laffitte (FR) 2 0 0% −2.00
Saint-Malo (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Longchamp (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Toulouse (FR) 1 0 0% —

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m2f – 1m4f 5 0 0% −5.00
1m – 1m1f 2 1 50% —

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Mr Guy Fanneau de la Horie 3 0 0% −3.00
Ioritz Mendizabal 3 1 33% −1.00
Mme Aude Duporte 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2011 1 0 0% −1.00
2010 3 0 0% −3.00
2008 3 1 33% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt Jockey SP
27 May 11+316d Saint-Cloud (FR) Prix Du Mesnil-Villement (Claimer) (4yo+) (Lady Riders) (Turf) 12f · Good · 10 ran 9/10 4 9-2 Mme Aude Duporte 26/1
15 Jul 10+65d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix Du Conseil General Des Yvelines (Prix Henri De Vesian) (Claimer) (Gentlemen riders) (Turf) 10f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 3/11 3 10-10 Mr Guy Fanneau de la Horie 65/1
11 May 10+16d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix Du Conseil General Des Yvelines (Prix Colonel Bernard Marlin) (Claimer) (Gentlemen/Lady Riders) 12f · Very Soft · 12 ran 8/12 5 10-2 Mr Guy Fanneau de la Horie 62/1
25 Apr 10+742d Saint-Malo (FR) Prix Rene Couetil (Conditions) (4yo+) (Gentlemen Riders) (Turf) 12f · Good · 11 ran 9/11 nse 10-6 Mr Guy Fanneau de la Horie 37/1
13 Apr 08+33d Longchamp (FR) SG Private Banking - Prix La Force 10f · Heavy · 7 ran 5/7 2 9-2 Ioritz Mendizabal 9/1
11 Mar 08+27d Saint-Cloud (FR) Prix Callistrate (Colts & Geldings) 8f · Heavy · 3 ran 1/3 9-0 Ioritz Mendizabal —
13 Feb 08 Toulouse (FR) Prix Provincial 8f · 6 ran 4/6 1 9-4 Ioritz Mendizabal —

Quick answers

How many races has Mess Around (FR) won?
Mess Around (FR) won 1 of 7 archived starts between 2008 and 2011, a strike rate of 14.3%. Placed 2 times in total (28.6% of starts).
Who trained Mess Around (FR)?
Mess Around (FR) was trained by F Danloux on the most recent run on record, at Saint-Cloud (FR) on 27 May 2011.
Who is Mess Around (FR)'s sire?
Mess Around (FR) is by Sagacity (FR) out of Bubba Gump (IRE), whose sire is Charnwood Forest.
What is Mess Around (FR)'s sire's record?
Sagacity (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 1,329 runs since Jan 2008 (154 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 14.7% from 136.
Who are Mess Around (FR)'s siblings?
Out of Bubba Gump (IRE), Mess Around (FR) has 3 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Cherubino (FR) (1). The wins came over 1m4f–1m5f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from February 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.