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Horse profile

Muddle Thinking (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, Dec 2021) · Last trainer Christian Williams · Last owner Saloop
by Haafhd (GB) out of Just Josie (GB) (Josr Algarhoud)
7 runs · 6 courses · from Jun 2018
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 16 Dec 2021 — 1,784 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Dec 2021 New yard Last raced off OR 79
KTB Profile

Muddle Thinking is a gelding by Haafhd out of Just Josie. He ran seven times on turf between Jun 2018 and Dec 2021 without winning or placing and reached a highest official rating of 85. All seven starts came on soft, good to soft or good going with the last four between 1m5f and 2m. His last run at Exeter in Dec 2021 was his first for Christian Williams and came off an official rating of 79.

Based on 7 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 62 the best of the last 1 graded (A or B) run · Southwell, 24 Nov 2020

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 6 figures · best 81C · median 65.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Good to Soft371C69—
Soft226C14—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m469C44—
2m1f – 2m4f281C76—

Of 7 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 7 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 96C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Newbury, 22 Mar 2019 Official rating 79 at the last run, 16 Dec 2021

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 6 figures · best 96C · median 91
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Good to Soft396C86—
Soft295C93.5—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m495C89—
2m1f – 2m4f296C93—

Of 7 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 7 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Haafhd (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.9% of 4,752 runs since May 2008 (305 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm56610.7%−0.2—
Good to Firm7988811%+0.1—
Good1,09512611.5%+0.60 from 1
Good to Soft6156710.9%00 from 3
Soft593589.8%−1.10 from 3
Heavy1722011.6%+0.7—
Standard (AW)1,42315510.9%0—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f125118.8%−2.1—
6f – 7f1,16013311.5%+0.6—
1m – 1m1f1,14211910.4%−0.5—
1m2f – 1m4f1,22213411%+0.1—
1m5f – 2m7227410.2%−0.70 from 4
2m1f – 2m4f2762910.5%−0.40 from 2
2m5f – 3m69811.6%+0.70 from 1
Over 3m361233.3%+22.4—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since May 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Just Josie (GB) (Josr Algarhoud)

4 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Just In A Muddle (IRE)100——
Muddle In The Sky (IRE)10——
Muddled Up (GB)50——
Cracker Muddle (GB)40——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 4 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Plumpton 2 0 0% −2.00
Exeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Southwell 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Sandown 1 0 0% −1.00
Fontwell 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 4 0 0% −4.00
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Jamie Moore 3 0 0% −3.00
Mr Daniel Ellis 1 0 0% −1.00
Niall Houlihan 1 0 0% −1.00
Joshua Moore 1 0 0% −1.00
Sean Bowen 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2021 1 0 0% −1.00
2020 1 0 0% −1.00
2019 3 0 0% −3.00
2018 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 6 0 0% −6.00
NH Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2021 · 1 run
16 Dec 21+387d Exeter Like Racing Tv On Facebook Now Amateur Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m5½f · Soft · 13 ran PU/13 — 9-12 79—— Mr Daniel Ellis 50/1
2020 · 1 run
24 Nov 20+613d Southwell Sky Sports Racing Hd Virgin 535 Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m · Good To Soft · 12 ran 8/12 ½ 10-5 8562A78A Niall Houlihan 16/1
2019 · 3 runs
22 Mar 19+35d Newbury Be Wiser Insurance Novices' Hurdle Class 3 · 2m4½f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 9/10 hd 11-1 —71C96C Jamie Moore 200/1
15 Feb 19+40d Sandown Dickie Pile 80th Birthday 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Soft · 8 ran 8/8 8 11-2 —2C95C Jamie Moore 50/1
06 Jan 19+34d Plumpton Watch Sky Sports Racing In Hd Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Good To Soft · 12 ran 6/12 10 11-5 —69C86C Joshua Moore 50/1
2018 · 2 runs
03 Dec 18+181d Plumpton Cranbrook Underwriting's Bob Katzaros Celebration Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Soft · 12 ran 10/12 32 10-12 —26C92C Jamie Moore 50/1
05 Jun 18 Fontwell Michael Hogan Memorial Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 5 · 2m1½f · Good · 10 ran 7/10 15 10-13 —81C90C Sean Bowen 4/1

Quick answers

How many races has Muddle Thinking won?
Muddle Thinking (IRE) has yet to win, from 7 archived starts between 2018 and 2021.
Who trained Muddle Thinking?
Muddle Thinking (IRE) was trained by Christian Williams on the most recent run on record, at Exeter on 16 December 2021.
Who is Muddle Thinking's sire?
Muddle Thinking (IRE) is by Haafhd (GB) out of Just Josie (GB), whose sire is Josr Algarhoud.
What is Muddle Thinking's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 79, from the run on 16 December 2021. The highest on record is 85.
What is Muddle Thinking's sire's record?
Haafhd (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.9% of 4,752 runs since May 2008 (305 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Muddle Thinking's siblings?
Out of Just Josie (GB), Muddle Thinking (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from June 2018. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.