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Horse profile

Never Can Tell (IRE)

5yo gelding (at last run, Oct 2018) · Last trainer Edward Cawley · Last owner Edward Cawley
by Robin Des Champs (FR) out of Brotenstown (IRE) (Presenting)
4 runs · 4 courses · from Dec 2017
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 27 Oct 2018 — 2,922 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2018 · 16th of 19 Last raced off OR 93
KTB Profile

Never Can Tell (IRE) is yet to win from 4 starts.

Based on 4 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 76 the best of the last 1 graded (A or B) run · Naas, 25 Feb 2018

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 4 figures · best 76B · median 53
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft376B68—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f368C38—
1m5f – 2m1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 4 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 100A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Naas, 25 Feb 2018 Official rating 93 at the last run, 27 Oct 2018

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 4 figures · best 100A · median 95
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft3100A95—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f395C95—
1m5f – 2m1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 4 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Robin Des Champs (FR)

Progeny in our archive have won 13.3% of 4,007 runs since Jan 2008 (425 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm4125%+11.7—
Good to Firm71912.7%−0.6—
Good1,07215914.8%+1.5—
Good to Soft76210213.4%+0.1—
Soft1,36515311.2%−2.10 from 3
Heavy71710414.5%+1.20 from 1
Standard (AW)16318.8%+5.5—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f100%−13.3—
1m2f – 1m4f13215.4%+2.1—
1m5f – 2m1,04514413.8%+0.50 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f1,54920813.4%+0.10 from 3
2m5f – 3m1,12513812.3%−1—
Over 3m2743914.2%+0.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Brotenstown (IRE) (Presenting)

4 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Look To The West (IRE) (3 wins).

The wins came over 2m–2m4f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Bembridge (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Look To The West (IRE)1032m–2m4f—
Robintheaulad (IRE)1012m1fClass 5
Bembridge (IRE)912m4fClass 4
Minella Mission (IRE)30——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Galway 1 0 0% −1.00
Naas 1 0 0% −1.00
Navan 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 3 0 0% −3.00
1m5f – 2m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Chris Timmons 3 0 0% −3.00
Shane Shortall 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2018 3 0 0% −3.00
2017 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2018 · 3 runs
27 Oct 18+244d Galway Colm Quinn Bmw Handicap Hurdle (80-102) 18.5f · Yielding · 19 ran 16/19 2 11-3 9368C90C Shane Shortall 20/1
25 Feb 18+36d Naas Cavan Developments Home Builder Supporting Kill GAA Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft · 21 ran 10/21 2½ 11-8 —76B100A Chris Timmons 100/1
20 Jan 18+49d Navan www.navanracecourse.ie Maiden Hurdle 20f · Heavy · 17 ran 13/17 hd 11-6 —37C95C Chris Timmons 100/1
2017 · 1 run
02 Dec 17 Fairyhouse Irish Racing Year Book Maiden Hurdle 18f · Soft · 25 ran 20/25 9 11-6 —38C95C Chris Timmons 100/1

Quick answers

How many races has Never Can Tell won?
Never Can Tell (IRE) has yet to win, from 4 archived starts between 2017 and 2018.
Who trained Never Can Tell?
Never Can Tell (IRE) was trained by Edward Cawley on the most recent run on record, at Galway on 27 October 2018.
Who is Never Can Tell's sire?
Never Can Tell (IRE) is by Robin Des Champs (FR) out of Brotenstown (IRE), whose sire is Presenting.
What is Never Can Tell's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 93, from the run on 27 October 2018. That is also the highest on record.
What is Never Can Tell's sire's record?
Robin Des Champs (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 13.3% of 4,007 runs since Jan 2008 (425 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Never Can Tell's siblings?
Out of Brotenstown (IRE), Never Can Tell (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Look To The West (IRE) (3). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Bembridge (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–2m4f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from December 2017. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.