Never Too Much (IRE)
Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Jun 2013 and Jul 2013, the last of them as a 3yo gelding. Finished 8 of 11 at Wolverhampton (AW) last time. By Johannesburg (USA), whose progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 2,562 runs since Jan 2008.
- 0–2Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- −2.00£1 level staken=2 at SP
- 22dAvg between runs
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 2,562 runs since Jan 2008 (191 horses).
Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 16% from 244. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 3.8% from 104.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 41 | 2 | 4.9% | −4.9 | — |
| Good to Firm | 557 | 52 | 9.3% | −0.5 | — |
| Good | 560 | 70 | 12.5% | +2.7 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 248 | 18 | 7.3% | −2.5 | — |
| Soft | 295 | 26 | 8.8% | −1 | — |
| Heavy | 88 | 8 | 9.1% | −0.7 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 773 | 76 | 9.8% | 0 | 0 from 1 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 244 | 39 | 16% | +6.2 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 826 | 95 | 11.5% | +1.7 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 604 | 41 | 6.8% | −3 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 452 | 42 | 9.3% | −0.5 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 320 | 31 | 9.7% | −0.1 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 104 | 4 | 3.8% | −6 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 11 | 0 | 0% | −9.8 | — |
| Over 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −9.8 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
6 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Mousse Au Chocolat (USA) (3 wins).
The wins came over 5f–1m; the highest grade won is Listed (Mousse Au Chocolat (USA)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mousse Au Chocolat (USA) | 7 | 3 | 6f–1m | Listed |
| Ronan's Bay (USA) | 6 | 1 | 7f | — |
| Chinotto (IRE) | 6 | 1 | 1m | Class 5 |
| Melody Dawn (USA) | 4 | 1 | 5f | — |
| Battle Of Bosworth (IRE) | 5 | 0 | — | — |
| General Potempkin (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2013 · 2 runs | ||||||||
| 09 Jul 13+22d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Download The BetVictor App Now Maiden Stakes (Div 2) | 8/11 | 3 | 9-0 | 35C | Ashley Morgan | 100/1 |
| 17 Jun 13 | Windsor | MWH Maiden Stakes | 11/15 | 1¼ | 8-12 | 50C | Ashley Morgan | 66/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Never Too Much won?
- Never Too Much (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2013.
- Who trained Never Too Much?
- Never Too Much (IRE) was trained by Chris Wall on the most recent run on record, at Wolverhampton (AW) on 9 July 2013.
- Who is Never Too Much's sire?
- Never Too Much (IRE) is by Johannesburg (USA) out of Muskoka Dawn (USA), whose sire is Miswaki.
- What is Never Too Much's sire's record?
- Johannesburg (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 2,562 runs since Jan 2008 (191 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 16% from 244. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 3.8% from 104.
- Who are Never Too Much's siblings?
- Out of Muskoka Dawn (USA), Never Too Much (IRE) has 6 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Mousse Au Chocolat (USA) (3). Highest grade won: Listed (Mousse Au Chocolat (USA)). The wins came over 5f–1m. As at Oct 2026.