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Horse profile

No More Promises (GB)

4yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2020) · Last trainer Frank Bishop · Last owner M P Bishop
by Mazameer (IRE) out of Pnyka (IRE) (Montjeu)
3 runs · 3 courses · from Aug 2020
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 3 Sep 2020 — 2,253 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2020 · 9th of 10
KTB Profile

No More Promises (GB) is yet to win from 3 starts.

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 3 figures · best 39C · median 33
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Standard (AW)1———
Good to Soft1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Under 6f239C-8.5—
1m – 1m1f1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 43C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Chelmsford City (AW), 3 Sep 2020

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 3 figures · best 43C · median 26
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Standard (AW)1———
Good to Soft1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Under 6f226C22—
1m – 1m1f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 7.8% of 474 runs since Mar 2017 (43 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm200%−7.8—
Good to Firm8522.4%−5.40 from 1
Good80911.3%+3.5—
Good to Soft5347.5%−0.30 from 1
Soft6169.8%+2—
Heavy1000%−7.8—
Standard (AW)183168.7%+0.90 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f113108.8%+10 from 2
6f – 7f233198.2%+0.4—
1m – 1m1f8211.2%−6.60 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f33618.2%+10.4—
1m5f – 2m1218.3%+0.5—
2m1f – 2m4f100%−7.8—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Mar 2017 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Pnyka (IRE) (Montjeu)

4 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Pink Silk (GB)20——
Pynkamix (GB)30——
Dawlish (GB)30——
Caporali (GB)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Chelmsford City (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Bath 1 0 0% −1.00
Windsor 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
Under 6f 2 0 0% −2.00
1m – 1m1f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Tim Clark 2 0 0% −2.00
William Carson 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2020 · 3 runs
03 Sep 20+10d Chelmsford City (AW) tote.co.uk Novice Stakes (Div 1) Class 5 · 1m · Standard · 10 ran 9/10 1¼ 9-7 33C43C Tim Clark 250/1
24 Aug 20+15d Bath Final Furlong Podcast Novice Stakes Class 5 · 5f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 7/7 10 9-5 39C26C Tim Clark 200/1
09 Aug 20 Windsor Sky Sports Racing Sky 415 Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 5f · Good To Firm · 5 ran 5/5 47 9-8 -56C18C William Carson 125/1

Quick answers

How many races has No More Promises won?
No More Promises (GB) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts in 2020.
Who trained No More Promises?
No More Promises (GB) was trained by Frank Bishop on the most recent run on record, at Chelmsford City (AW) on 3 September 2020.
Who is No More Promises's sire?
No More Promises (GB) is by Mazameer (IRE) out of Pnyka (IRE), whose sire is Montjeu.
What is No More Promises's sire's record?
Mazameer (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.8% of 474 runs since Mar 2017 (43 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are No More Promises's siblings?
Out of Pnyka (IRE), No More Promises (GB) has 4 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from August 2020. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.