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Horse profile

Not So Sure (IRE)

4yo gelding (at last run, Oct 2008) · Last trainer A J McNamara · Last owner Indecisive Partnership
by Alderbrook (GB) out of Shinny Wheels (IRE) (Arctic Cider)
3 runs · 2 courses · from Jul 2008
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 3 Oct 2008 — 6,606 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2008 · 20th of 20
KTB Profile

Not So Sure (IRE) is yet to win from 3 starts.

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 94C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Gowran Park, 3 Oct 2008 Official rating 131 at the last run, 6 Aug 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 94C · median 87
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Soft287C86—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m294C90.5—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Alderbrook (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 3,293 runs since Jan 2008 (299 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm17317.6%+7.9—
Good to Firm2362410.2%+0.5—
Good9419710.3%+0.6—
Good to Soft627568.9%−0.80 from 1
Soft892707.8%−1.90 from 2
Heavy5586812.2%+2.5—
Standard (AW)2229.1%−0.6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f100%−9.7—
1m – 1m1f200%−9.7—
1m2f – 1m4f8112.5%+2.8—
1m5f – 2m762678.8%−0.90 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f1,18012210.3%+0.60 from 1
2m5f – 3m979959.7%0—
Over 3m361359.7%0—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Shinny Wheels (IRE) (Arctic Cider)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Good Man Buster (IRE)50——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Sligo 2 0 0% −2.00
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Mark Walsh 1 0 0% −1.00
Niki O'Shea 1 0 0% −1.00
Andrew J McNamara 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2008 · 3 runs
03 Oct 08+58d Gowran Park Knocktopher Maiden Hurdle 2m · Good To Yielding · 20 ran 20/20 26 11-8 —94C Mark Walsh 50/1
06 Aug 08+24d Sligo Martinstown Opportunity Maiden Hurdle 2m4f · Yielding · 16 ran 13/16 30 10-13 13185C Niki O'Shea 50/1
13 Jul 08 Sligo I.T.B.A. (Western Region) Maiden Hurdle 2m · Yielding · 14 ran 10/14 shd 11-2 —87C Andrew J McNamara 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Not So Sure won?
Not So Sure (IRE) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts in 2008.
Who trained Not So Sure?
Not So Sure (IRE) was trained by A J McNamara on the most recent run on record, at Gowran Park on 3 October 2008.
Who is Not So Sure's sire?
Not So Sure (IRE) is by Alderbrook (GB) out of Shinny Wheels (IRE), whose sire is Arctic Cider.
What is Not So Sure's official rating?
Not So Sure (IRE)'s highest official rating on record is 131.
What is Not So Sure's sire's record?
Alderbrook (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 3,293 runs since Jan 2008 (299 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Not So Sure's siblings?
Out of Shinny Wheels (IRE), Not So Sure (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from July 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.