Nothin To Say (IRE)
Nothin To Say (IRE) is yet to win from 5 starts.
Progeny in our archive
As a dam, Nothin To Say (IRE) has 2 produce in the archive, 1 winner — most wins Nothin To Ask (IRE) (3 wins).
The wins came over 2m3f–2m3½f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Nothin To Ask (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nothin To Ask (IRE) | 23 | 3 | 2m3f–2m3½f | Class 3 |
| Dontaskchris (IRE) | 5 | 0 | — | — |
- 0–5Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- −5.00£1 level staken=5 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=5 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 308dBetween runs (median)
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 10.4% of 17,045 runs since Jan 2008 (1,155 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 66 | 5 | 7.6% | −2.8 | — |
| Good to Firm | 939 | 107 | 11.4% | +1 | — |
| Good | 5,296 | 549 | 10.4% | 0 | 0 from 2 |
| Good to Soft | 2,467 | 267 | 10.8% | +0.4 | — |
| Soft | 5,057 | 519 | 10.3% | −0.1 | 0 from 2 |
| Heavy | 3,159 | 328 | 10.4% | 0 | 0 from 1 |
| Standard (AW) | 61 | 6 | 9.8% | −0.6 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −10.4 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 10 | 1 | 10% | −0.4 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 64 | 5 | 7.8% | −2.6 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 4,890 | 502 | 10.3% | −0.1 | 0 from 1 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 6,355 | 661 | 10.4% | 0 | 0 from 2 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 4,702 | 522 | 11.1% | +0.7 | 0 from 2 |
| Over 3m | 1,022 | 90 | 8.8% | −1.6 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
2 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Benefit Scheme (IRE) (1 win).
The wins came over 2m.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Benefit Scheme (IRE) | 20 | 1 | 2m | — |
| Tooreen Supreme (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cork | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Tramore | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Listowel | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tipperary | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m5f – 3m | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shane Jackson | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Andrew Ring | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Mr L P Flynn | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Mr D P Howard | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tongue tie | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| None | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2013 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2012 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2011 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2010 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Chase | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2013 · 2 runs | ||||||||
| 13 Apr 13+12d | Tramore | Online Booking At www.tramore-racecourse.com Maiden Hurdle | 12/15 | 1¾ | 10-4 | 71C | Andrew Ring | 25/1 |
| 01 Apr 13+357d | Cork | Friday Evening Racing At Cork Racecourse (Q.R.) Maiden Hurdle | PU/17 | — | 11-2 | — | Mr L P Flynn | 50/1 |
| 2012 · 1 run | ||||||||
| 09 Apr 12+308d | Cork | Friday Evening Racing At Cork Racecourse (Q.R.) Maiden Hurdle | 8/19 | 7½ | 10-12 | 90A | Mr D P Howard | 25/1 |
| 2011 · 1 run | ||||||||
| 06 Jun 11+354d | Listowel | Listowel Race Directors Mares Beginners Chase | PU/15 | — | 11-7 | — | Shane Jackson | 50/1 |
| 2010 · 1 run | ||||||||
| 17 Jun 10 | Tipperary | Clanwilliam Novice Hurdle | PU/14 | — | 10-9 | — | Shane Jackson | 33/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Nothin To Say won?
- Nothin To Say (IRE) has yet to win, from 5 archived starts between 2010 and 2013.
- Who trained Nothin To Say?
- Nothin To Say (IRE) was trained by P J Rothwell on the most recent run on record, at Tramore on 13 April 2013.
- Who is Nothin To Say's sire?
- Nothin To Say (IRE) is by Beneficial (GB) out of Supreme Schemer (IRE), whose sire is Supreme Leader.
- What is Nothin To Say's sire's record?
- Beneficial (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.4% of 17,045 runs since Jan 2008 (1,155 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Nothin To Say's siblings?
- Out of Supreme Schemer (IRE), Nothin To Say (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Benefit Scheme (IRE) (1). The wins came over 2m. As at Nov 2026.
- Has Nothin To Say produced winners?
- As a dam, Nothin To Say (IRE) has 2 produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Nothin To Ask (IRE) (3). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Nothin To Ask (IRE)). The wins came over 2m3f–2m3½f. As at Nov 2026.