Notre Same (GER)
Notre Same (GER) is yet to win from 6 starts. Best effort: 4th of 13 at Saint-Cloud (FR) (May 2018).
- 0–6Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- −6.00£1 level staken=6 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=6 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 176dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 11.8% of 1,178 runs since Jan 2008 (139 horses).
Strongest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 17.5% from 308. Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 8.3% from 109.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 4 | 2 | 50% | +38.2 | — |
| Good to Firm | 41 | 6 | 14.6% | +2.8 | — |
| Good | 271 | 34 | 12.5% | +0.7 | 0 from 5 |
| Good to Soft | 133 | 15 | 11.3% | −0.5 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 309 | 37 | 12% | +0.2 | — |
| Heavy | 182 | 18 | 9.9% | −1.9 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 237 | 27 | 11.4% | −0.4 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −11.8 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 27 | 1 | 3.7% | −8.1 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 109 | 9 | 8.3% | −3.5 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 329 | 34 | 10.3% | −1.5 | 0 from 4 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 308 | 54 | 17.5% | +5.7 | 0 from 2 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 280 | 30 | 10.7% | −1.1 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 117 | 11 | 9.4% | −2.4 | — |
| Over 3m | 7 | 0 | 0% | −11.8 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
4 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Nordic Quest (IRE) (2 wins).
The wins came over 1m3½f–2m1½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Nordic Quest (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nordic Quest (IRE) | 24 | 2 | 1m3½f–1m7½f | Class 4 |
| Notre Jury (GER) | 1 | 1 | 2m1½f | — |
| Noble Galileo (GER) | 15 | 0 | — | — |
| Notre Logique (GER) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Saint-Cloud (FR) | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Chantilly (FR) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Longchamp (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Marc Nobili | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Benjamin Marie | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Antoine Hamelin | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Marc Lerner | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2019 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2018 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2017 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2019 · 3 runs | |||||||
| 14 Sep 19+14d | Chantilly (FR) | Prix de Pontpoint (Handicap) (4yo+) (Turf) | 12/12 | 30 | 8-11 | Marc Nobili | 80/1 |
| 31 Aug 19+86d | Chantilly (FR) | Prix de la Porte de Meaux (Claimer) (4yo+) (Turf) | 8/9 | ¾ | 8-13 | Benjamin Marie | 57/1 |
| 06 Jun 19+260d | Longchamp (FR) | Prix du Val de Grace (Claimer) (4yo+) (Turf) | 8/9 | 9 | 9-4 | Marc Nobili | 55/1 |
| 2018 · 2 runs | |||||||
| 19 Sep 18+134d | Saint-Cloud (FR) | Prix de Feucherolles (Claimer) (4yo+) (Turf) | 6/10 | 8 | 9-4 | Marc Nobili | 47/10 |
| 08 May 18+384d | Saint-Cloud (FR) | Prix de Brunoy (Claimer) (4yo+) (Turf) | 4/13 | shd | 9-1 | Antoine Hamelin | 3/1F |
| 2017 · 1 run | |||||||
| 19 Apr 17 | Saint-Cloud (FR) | Prix Balbo (Conditions) (4yo+) (Turf) | 4/7 | shd | 8-11 | Marc Lerner | 34/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Notre Same won?
- Notre Same (GER) has yet to win, from 6 archived starts between 2017 and 2019.
- Who trained Notre Same?
- Notre Same (GER) was trained by Stephanie Gachelin on the most recent run on record, at Chantilly (FR) on 14 September 2019.
- Who is Notre Same's sire?
- Notre Same (GER) is by Samum (GER) out of Nordtanzerin (GER), whose sire is Danehill Dancer.
- What is Notre Same's sire's record?
- Samum (GER)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.8% of 1,178 runs since Jan 2008 (139 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 17.5% from 308. Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 8.3% from 109.
- Who are Notre Same's siblings?
- Out of Nordtanzerin (GER), Notre Same (GER) has 4 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Nordic Quest (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Nordic Quest (IRE)). The wins came over 1m3½f–2m1½f. As at Oct 2026.