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Horse profile

Old Golden Grey (GB)

11yo gelding (at last run, Jul 2008) · Last trainer John Groucott · Last owner Stephen Williams
by Thethingaboutitis (USA) out of Modina April (GB) (New Member)
5 runs · 5 courses · from Oct 2006
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 29 Jul 2008 — 6,673 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2008 Last raced off OR 59
KTB Profile

Old Golden Grey (GB) is yet to win from 5 starts. Last raced off 59, 19lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 5 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 80C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Uttoxeter, 23 Sep 2007 Official rating 59 at the last jumps run, 29 Jul 2008

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 47C the best of the last 1 rated run · Brighton, 13 Oct 2006

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 80C · median 56
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Good to Firm256C46.5—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Over 3m256C46.5—
2m1f – 2m4f1———
Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 5 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 5 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Thethingaboutitis (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 3% of 66 runs since Jan 2008 (10 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm1200%−30 from 2
Good1600%−30 from 2
Good to Soft9222.2%+19.20 from 1
Soft1700%−3—
Heavy500%−3—
Standard (AW)700%−3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f500%−3—
1m – 1m1f200%−3—
1m2f – 1m4f500%−30 from 1
1m5f – 2m1600%−3—
2m1f – 2m4f1700%−30 from 1
2m5f – 3m16212.5%+9.50 from 1
Over 3m500%−30 from 2

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Modina April (GB) (New Member)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Old Golden Bay (GB)50——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Worcester 1 0 0% −1.00
Hereford 1 0 0% −1.00
Huntingdon 1 0 0% −1.00
Uttoxeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Brighton 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
Over 3m 2 0 0% −2.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00
1m2f – 1m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Lee Edwards 3 0 0% −3.00
W J Cafferty 1 0 0% −1.00
Frankie Pickard 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2008 1 0 0% −1.00
2007 3 0 0% −3.00
2006 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 4 0 0% −4.00
Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2008 · 1 run
29 Jul 08+282d Worcester Ladbrokes 'Odds On' Reward Card Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 3m · Good · 12 ran PU/12 — 10-5 59— Lee Edwards 100/1
2007 · 3 runs
21 Oct 07+14d Hereford Lindley Catering Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 3m1½f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 9/13 5 9-11 7856C Lee Edwards 100/1
07 Oct 07+14d Huntingdon H20 Nationwide Ltd Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 3m1f · Good To Firm · 17 ran 10/17 6 9-7 6437C W J Cafferty 100/1
23 Sep 07+345d Uttoxeter Grenville Engineering (S-O-T) Ltd Novices' Hurdle (Div 1) Class 4 · 2m4f · Good · 12 ran 9/12 8 10-5 —80C Lee Edwards 125/1
2006 · 1 run
13 Oct 06 Brighton RB Solutions Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 1m4f · Good To Soft · 5 ran 5/5 30 9-3 —47C Frankie Pickard 100/1

Quick answers

How many races has Old Golden Grey won?
Old Golden Grey (GB) has yet to win, from 5 archived starts between 2006 and 2008.
Who trained Old Golden Grey?
Old Golden Grey (GB) was trained by John Groucott on the most recent run on record, at Worcester on 29 July 2008.
Who is Old Golden Grey's sire?
Old Golden Grey (GB) is by Thethingaboutitis (USA) out of Modina April (GB), whose sire is New Member.
What is Old Golden Grey's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 59, from the run on 29 July 2008. The highest on record is 78.
What is Old Golden Grey's sire's record?
Thethingaboutitis (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 3% of 66 runs since Jan 2008 (10 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Old Golden Grey's siblings?
Out of Modina April (GB), Old Golden Grey (GB) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from October 2006. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.