Horse profile
Old Si (IRE)
9yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2012) · Last trainer Ms A E Embiricos · Last owner Mrs S N J Embiricos
by Saddlers' Hall (IRE) out of Shaping (IRE) (Deep Run)
26 runs · 14 courses · from Dec 2007
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 11 Mar 2012 — 5,337 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2012
5 wins · 5 courses
New yard
Last raced off OR 122
KTB Profile
Old Si (IRE) is 5 from 26. Hasn't won since Apr 2011.
Based on 26 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
- 5–26Wins / Runs
- 19.2%Strike rate
- 10 (38.5%)Placed
- +6.25£1 level staken=26 at SP
- 2.08Fair A/E n=26 · 1.60 incl. margin
- 126Highest OR
- 61dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
Official rating122↓ 4lb off peak
122
115–126
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Saddlers' Hall (IRE)
Progeny in our archive have won 7.7% of 4,861 runs since Jan 2008 (460 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 59 | 6 | 10.2% | +2.5 | — |
| Good to Firm | 482 | 40 | 8.3% | +0.6 | 0 from 1 |
| Good | 1,351 | 114 | 8.4% | +0.7 | 1 from 8 |
| Good to Soft | 693 | 54 | 7.8% | +0.1 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 1,317 | 91 | 6.9% | −0.8 | 3 from 8 |
| Heavy | 940 | 70 | 7.4% | −0.3 | 1 from 8 |
| Standard (AW) | 19 | 1 | 5.3% | −2.4 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −7.7 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −7.7 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 24 | 1 | 4.2% | −3.5 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 1,059 | 77 | 7.3% | −0.4 | 2 from 2 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 1,723 | 113 | 6.6% | −1.1 | 3 from 13 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 1,597 | 146 | 9.1% | +1.4 | 0 from 10 |
| Over 3m | 455 | 39 | 8.6% | +0.9 | 0 from 1 |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Dam
Shaping (IRE) (Deep Run)
8 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Open Day (IRE) (5 wins).
The wins came over 2m–2m4f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Open Day (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Open Day (IRE) | 18 | 5 | 2m–2m4f | Class 3 |
| San Angelo (IRE) | 21 | 2 | 2m1f–2m4f | — |
| What A Joke (IRE) | 14 | 0 | — | — |
| Inishlacken (IRE) | 11 | 0 | — | — |
| Great Banter (IRE) | 5 | 0 | — | — |
| Poetry Man (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
| Jas D'Esclans (IRE) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
| Tale Of A Champion (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 8 | 1 | 13% | +0.00 |
| Soft | 8 | 3 | 38% | +11.75 |
| Heavy | 8 | 1 | 13% | −3.50 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Good to Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 6 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Punchestown | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Thurles | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Leopardstown | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Navan | 3 | 1 | 33% | +5.00 |
| Clonmel | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Galway | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Warwick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Limerick | 1 | 1 | 100% | +9.00 |
| Roscommon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Killarney | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Fairyhouse | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tralee | 1 | 1 | 100% | +5.00 |
| Navan (IRE) | 1 | 1 | 100% | +3.50 |
| Fairyhouse (IRE) | 1 | 1 | 100% | +2.75 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 13 | 3 | 23% | +11.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 10 | 0 | 0% | −10.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 2 | 2 | 100% | +6.25 |
| Over 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Roger Loughran | 10 | 1 | 10% | −4.00 |
| Ian McCarthy | 10 | 3 | 30% | +6.25 |
| B J Cooper | 4 | 1 | 25% | +6.00 |
| Mr Richard Collinson | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| A P McCoy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 17 | 4 | 24% | +5.25 |
| Blinkers | 9 | 1 | 11% | +1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2012 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2011 | 2 | 1 | 50% | +8.00 |
| 2010 | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| 2009 | 7 | 1 | 14% | +1.00 |
| 2008 | 7 | 3 | 43% | +7.25 |
| 2007 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chase | 22 | 3 | 14% | +2.00 |
| Hurdle | 4 | 2 | 50% | +4.25 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 11 Mar 12+343d | Warwick | Air Wedding Hunters' Chase | PU/7 | — | 11-13 | 122 | — | Mr Richard Collinson | 4/1 |
| 03 Apr 11+80d | Limerick | Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Chase | 1/16 | 11-1 | 118 | 134A | B J Cooper | 9/1 | |
| 13 Jan 11+15d | Thurles | Tote Jackpot Rollover Chase | 5/12 | shd | 10-13 | 119 | 100A | B J Cooper | 13/2 |
| 29 Dec 10+48d | Leopardstown | Paddy Power Chase (0-145) (Grade B) | 8/28 | ½ | 9-8 | 120 | 110A | B J Cooper | 33/1 |
| 11 Nov 10+17d | Clonmel | Prior Park Service Station Clonmel Handicap Chase (0-123) | 3/8 | 5½ | 11-5 | 120 | 120B | B J Cooper | 5/1 |
| 25 Oct 10+12d | Galway | Castlegar Handicap Chase | 8/15 | 8 | 10-10 | 121 | 100C | Roger Loughran | 8/1 |
| 13 Oct 10+16d | Punchestown | www.punchestown.com Handicap Chase (0-130) | 2/9 | 4½ | 11-3 | 119 | 128A | Roger Loughran | 10/1 |
| 27 Sep 10+140d | Roscommon | Kiltoom Handicap Chase | 6/11 | 8 | 11-8 | 121 | 117A | Roger Loughran | 8/1 |
| 10 May 10+16d | Killarney | Mcsweeney Arms Hotel Handicap Chase | 5/15 | 7 | 10-9 | 123 | 111A | Roger Loughran | 10/1 |
| 24 Apr 10+96d | Punchestown | Tulfarris Hotel and Golf Resort Pat Taaffe Handicap Chase (0-145) (Grade B) | 4/23 | 7 | 10-2 | 123 | 126A | Roger Loughran | 25/1 |
| 18 Jan 10+22d | Thurles | Rock Of Cashel Chase | 5/7 | 1¾ | 11-1 | 123 | 99C | Ian McCarthy | 7/1 |
| 27 Dec 09+35d | Leopardstown | Paddy Power Chase (0-145) (Grade B Handicap) | 18/28 | nk | 10-2 | 126 | 105C | Ian McCarthy | 33/1 |
| 22 Nov 09+27d | Navan | Troytown Handicap Chase (0-150) (grade B) | PU/21 | — | 11-0 | 126 | — | Roger Loughran | 20/1 |
| 26 Oct 09+12d | Galway | Castlegar Handicap Chase | 2/17 | 4½ | 11-6 | 122 | 130A | Roger Loughran | 12/1 |
| 14 Oct 09+183d | Punchestown | Www.punchestown.com Handicap Chase (0-130) | 7/19 | 8 | 11-5 | 122 | 108C | Roger Loughran | 10/1 |
| 14 Apr 09+17d | Fairyhouse | Scotty 33 Cancer Research Handicap Chase (0-123) | F/17 | — | 11-6 | 122 | — | Ian McCarthy | 4/1 |
| 28 Mar 09+27d | Navan | Headfort Handicap Chase (0-116) | 1/14 | 11-7 | 115 | 131A | Ian McCarthy | 7/1 | |
| 01 Mar 09+71d | Clonmel | Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Chase (0-116) | 4/13 | 9 | 11-8 | 116 | 113A | Ian McCarthy | 7/1 |
| 20 Dec 08+30d | Navan | 'Prancer And Dancer' Handicap Chase (0-123) | F/12 | — | 11-4 | 118 | — | Ian McCarthy | 5/1F |
| 20 Nov 08+35d | Thurles | Templemore Handicap Chase (0-116) | 3/15 | 6 | 11-7 | 116 | 126A | Ian McCarthy | 8/1 |
| 16 Oct 08+16d | Punchestown | Buck House Novice Chase (Grade 3) | 4/5 | 30 | 11-0 | 116 | 99C | Roger Loughran | 4/1 |
| 30 Sep 08+158d | Tralee | Joseph J.Grace Memorial Beginners Chase | 1/15 | 11-9 | 115 | 127A | Roger Loughran | 5/1 | |
| 25 Apr 08+40d | Punchestown | Land Rover Champion Novice Hurdle (Grade 1) | 8/11 | 1 | 11-10 | — | 104C | A P McCoy | 16/1 |
| 16 Mar 08+22d | Navan (IRE) | Drogheda Novice Hurdle | 1/11 | 11-5 | — | 124A | Ian McCarthy | 7/2 | |
| 23 Feb 08+59d | Fairyhouse (IRE) | St Margarets GAA Maiden Hurdle | 1/25 | 11-5 | — | 125A | Ian McCarthy | 11/4 | |
| 26 Dec 07 | Leopardstown | Durkan New Homes Maiden Hurdle | 6/28 | 2½ | 11-0 | — | 116C | Ian McCarthy | 25/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Old Si (IRE) won?
- Old Si (IRE) won 5 of 26 archived starts between 2007 and 2012, a strike rate of 19.2%. Placed 10 times in total (38.5% of starts).
- Who trained Old Si (IRE)?
- Old Si (IRE) was trained by Ms A E Embiricos on the most recent run on record, at Warwick on 11 March 2012.
- Who is Old Si (IRE)'s sire?
- Old Si (IRE) is by Saddlers' Hall (IRE) out of Shaping (IRE), whose sire is Deep Run.
- What going does Old Si (IRE) prefer?
- Old Si (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 3 wins from 8 starts (37.5%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Old Si (IRE)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 122, from the run on 11 March 2012. The highest on record is 126.
- What is Old Si (IRE)'s sire's record?
- Saddlers' Hall (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.7% of 4,861 runs since Jan 2008 (460 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Old Si (IRE)'s siblings?
- Out of Shaping (IRE), Old Si (IRE) has 8 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Open Day (IRE) (5). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Open Day (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–2m4f. As at Oct 2026.