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Horse profile

Optimistic Joe (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Jun 2024) · Last trainer Philip Hobbs & Johnson White · Last owner Damree Developments Ltd
by Malinas (GER) out of Be Optimistic (IRE) (Stowaway)
6 runs · 6 courses · from Jan 2024
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 1 Jun 2024 — 887 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jun 2024 First-time headgear LTO Last raced off OR 92
KTB Profile

Optimistic Joe (IRE) is yet to win from 6 starts. Best effort: 4th of 10 at Huntingdon (Apr 2024).

Based on 6 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 109 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Exeter, 8 Mar 2024

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 4 figures · best 114C · median 105
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Good to Soft2114C107.5—
Good1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m2109B105—
2m5f – 3m1———
2m1f – 2m4f1———

Of 6 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (2).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 6 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 112A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Huntingdon, 1 Apr 2024 Official rating 92 at the last run, 1 Jun 2024

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 4 figures · best 112A · median 102.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Good to Soft2104A100—
Good1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m2104A102.5—
2m5f – 3m1———
2m1f – 2m4f1———

Of 6 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 6 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Malinas (GER)

Progeny in our archive have won 14.2% of 3,956 runs since Apr 2010 (419 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm100%−14.2—
Good to Firm37616.2%+2—
Good1,19017014.3%+0.10 from 2
Good to Soft92014115.3%+1.10 from 2
Soft1,23816613.4%−0.80 from 1
Heavy5357514%−0.20 from 1
Standard (AW)3412.9%−11.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f200%−14.2—
1m – 1m1f1218.3%−5.9—
1m2f – 1m4f50510%−4.2—
1m5f – 2m1,10315313.9%−0.30 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f1,37118213.3%−0.90 from 1
2m5f – 3m1,08617816.4%+2.20 from 2
Over 3m3324112.3%−1.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2010 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Be Optimistic (IRE) (Stowaway)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 4 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Worcester 1 0 0% −1.00
Ffos Las 1 0 0% −1.00
Huntingdon 1 0 0% −1.00
Exeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Wincanton 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 3 0 0% −3.00
2m5f – 3m 2 0 0% −2.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Sean Houlihan 3 0 0% −3.00
Micheal Nolan 3 0 0% −3.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 5 0 0% −5.00
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 5 0 0% −5.00
Chase 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2024 · 6 runs
01 Jun 24+25d Worcester Law Done Differently Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m7f · Good · 14 ran PU/14 — 11-8 92—— Sean Houlihan 8/1
07 May 24+36d Ffos Las Daily Price Boosts At Yeeehaaa.Bet Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 3m · Good To Soft · 10 ran 6/10 7 11-5 96114C96A Sean Houlihan 4/1
01 Apr 24+24d Huntingdon Read Henry Brooke On Blog.Rhino.Bet Novices' Handicap Hurdle (Div 1) Class 5 · 2m4½f · Good · 10 ran 4/10 8½ 11-12 9797A112A Sean Houlihan 11/2
08 Mar 24+20d Exeter CRS Building Supplies 'National Hunt' Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m½f · Soft · 9 ran 5/9 ½ 11-5 —109B101A Micheal Nolan 13/2
17 Feb 24+25d Wincanton JenningsBet Devizes 'National Hunt' Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 1m7f · Heavy · 12 ran PU/12 — 11-7 ——— Micheal Nolan 8/1
23 Jan 24 Newbury Get Best Odds Guaranteed At BetVictor Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) (Div 1) Class 3 · 2m½f · Good To Soft · 16 ran 9/16 ½ 11-8 —101B104A Micheal Nolan 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Optimistic Joe won?
Optimistic Joe (IRE) has yet to win, from 6 archived starts in 2024.
Who trained Optimistic Joe?
Optimistic Joe (IRE) was trained by Philip Hobbs & Johnson White on the most recent run on record, at Worcester on 1 June 2024.
Who is Optimistic Joe's sire?
Optimistic Joe (IRE) is by Malinas (GER) out of Be Optimistic (IRE), whose sire is Stowaway.
What is Optimistic Joe's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 92, from the run on 1 June 2024. The highest on record is 97.
What is Optimistic Joe's sire's record?
Malinas (GER)'s progeny in our archive have won 14.2% of 3,956 runs since Apr 2010 (419 horses), Flat and jumps together.

Record shown from January 2024. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.