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Horse profile

Palermo Viejo (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, Jul 2013) · Last trainer M Thibault · Last owner Michel Thibault
by Dansili (GB) out of Pot Pourri (GB) (Sadler's Wells)
3 runs · 3 courses · from Jul 2009
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 4 Jul 2013 — 4,872 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2013 New yard
KTB Profile

Palermo Viejo (IRE) is yet to win from 3 starts. Best effort: 3rd of 3 at Maisons-Laffitte (FR) (Oct 2009).

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

No KTB Rating figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Dansili (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 13.7% of 11,842 runs since Jan 2008 (983 horses).

Strongest on firm going: 16.8% from 101. Weakest on heavy going: 7.9% from 428. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 9.1% from 209.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1011716.8%+3.1—
Good to Firm2,10728613.6%−0.1—
Good2,96642414.3%+0.60 from 2
Good to Soft1,32416512.5%−1.2—
Soft1,41316011.3%−2.4—
Heavy428347.9%−5.8—
Standard (AW)3,50153815.4%+1.70 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f2533212.6%−1.1—
6f – 7f2,30929112.6%−1.1—
1m – 1m1f2,88242714.8%+1.10 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f3,79655814.7%+10 from 2
1m5f – 2m1,68221813%−0.7—
2m1f – 2m4f6837611.1%−2.6—
2m5f – 3m209199.1%−4.6—
Over 3m28310.7%−3—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Pot Pourri (GB) (Sadler's Wells)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Piquetera (GB)80——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 2 0 0% —
Standard (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Deauville (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Maisons-Laffitte (FR) 1 0 0% —
Chantilly (FR) 1 0 0% —

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m2f – 1m4f 2 0 0% —
1m – 1m1f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Guillaume Fourrier 1 0 0% −1.00
Pierre-Charles Boudot 1 0 0% —
Mickael Barzalona 1 0 0% —

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2013 1 0 0% −1.00
2009 2 0 0% —

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt Jockey SP
2013 · 1 run
04 Jul 13+1359d Deauville (FR) Prix De Valognes (Handicap) (5yo+) (Fibresand) 1m1½f · Standard · 16 ran —/16 8-13 Guillaume Fourrier 144/1
2009 · 2 runs
14 Oct 09+105d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix de Vux sur Seine (Claimer) (Left-Handed) 1m2½f · Good · 3 ran 3/3 nk 8-7 Pierre-Charles Boudot —
01 Jul 09 Chantilly (FR) Prix du Moulin a Vent 1m4f · Good · 3 ran 3/3 1 8-6 Mickael Barzalona —

Quick answers

How many races has Palermo Viejo won?
Palermo Viejo (IRE) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts between 2009 and 2013.
Who trained Palermo Viejo?
Palermo Viejo (IRE) was trained by M Thibault on the most recent run on record, at Deauville (FR) on 4 July 2013.
Who is Palermo Viejo's sire?
Palermo Viejo (IRE) is by Dansili (GB) out of Pot Pourri (GB), whose sire is Sadler's Wells.
What is Palermo Viejo's sire's record?
Dansili (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 13.7% of 11,842 runs since Jan 2008 (983 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on firm going: 16.8% from 101. Weakest on heavy going: 7.9% from 428. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 9.1% from 209.
Who are Palermo Viejo's siblings?
Out of Pot Pourri (GB), Palermo Viejo (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from July 2009. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.