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Horse profile

Pay Up John (IRE)

8yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2008) · Last trainer F J Lacy · Last owner F J Lacy
by Courtship (GB) out of Mandy's Last (GB) (Krayyan)
2 runs · 1 course · from Jul 2008
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 10 Sep 2008 — 6,622 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2008
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Jul 2008 and Sep 2008, the last of them as an 8yo gelding.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 86C the best of the last 1 rated run · Uttoxeter, 24 Jul 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 2 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Courtship (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.9% of 71 runs since Jan 2008 (15 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm100%−9.9—
Good to Firm11327.3%+17.40 from 1
Good20210%+0.1—
Good to Soft1715.9%−40 from 1
Soft1815.6%−4.3—
Heavy400%−9.9—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m2f – 1m4f100%−9.9—
1m5f – 2m20420%+10.1—
2m1f – 2m4f2800%−9.90 from 1
2m5f – 3m16212.5%+2.60 from 1
Over 3m6116.7%+6.8—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Mandy's Last (GB) (Krayyan)

2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Anla (IRE)20——
Fiddlerontheroof (IRE)10——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2008 · 2 runs
10 Sep 08+48d Uttoxeter Attiva Health Clubs Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Good To Soft · 13 ran PU/13 — 10-12 — Tom O'Brien 40/1
24 Jul 08 Uttoxeter Award Winning Jenkinsons Caterers Beginners' Chase Class 4 · 22.5f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 6/10 2¼ 11-0 86C Tom O'Brien 14/1

Quick answers

How many races has Pay Up John won?
Pay Up John (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2008.
Who trained Pay Up John?
Pay Up John (IRE) was trained by F J Lacy on the most recent run on record, at Uttoxeter on 10 September 2008.
Who is Pay Up John's sire?
Pay Up John (IRE) is by Courtship (GB) out of Mandy's Last (GB), whose sire is Krayyan.
What is Pay Up John's sire's record?
Courtship (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.9% of 71 runs since Jan 2008 (15 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Pay Up John's siblings?
Out of Mandy's Last (GB), Pay Up John (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from July 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.