Persuasive (IRE)
Persuasive (IRE) is 6 from 10, including a Group 1 win. Won last time out in the Queen Elizabeth II Stakes at Ascot — a first Group 1 win in our archive. All 6 wins have come over 1m – 1m1f. Last raced off a career-high mark of 113.
Progeny in our archive
As a dam, Persuasive (IRE) has 6 produce in the archive, 4 winners — most wins Theoryofeverything (GB) (5 wins).
The wins came over 7f–1m2f; the highest grade won is Listed (Cajole (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Theoryofeverything (GB) | 34 | 5 | 7f–1m1f | Class 2 |
| Cajole (GB) | 8 | 2 | 7f–1m | Listed |
| Persist (GB) | 20 | 2 | 1m–1m2f | Class 3 |
| Coaxed (GB) | 2 | 1 | 7f | Class 3 |
| Strong Opinion (GB) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
| Virtue King (GB) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
- 6–10Wins / Runs
- 60%Strike rate
- 9 (90%)Placed
- +27.41£1 level staken=10 at SP
- 2.78Fair A/E n=10 · 2.37 incl. margin
- 113Highest OR
- 80dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 98
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 22 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 2 | 121C | 109.5 | — |
| Soft | 1 | — | — | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 22 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m – 1m1f | 3 | 121C | 98 | — |
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 21,881 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses).
Strongest on firm going: 15% from 107.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 107 | 16 | 15% | +3.7 | — |
| Good to Firm | 3,694 | 452 | 12.2% | +0.9 | — |
| Good | 4,842 | 510 | 10.5% | −0.8 | 1 from 4 |
| Good to Soft | 2,409 | 251 | 10.4% | −0.9 | 1 from 1 |
| Soft | 2,725 | 254 | 9.3% | −2 | 2 from 3 |
| Heavy | 822 | 69 | 8.4% | −2.9 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 7,281 | 917 | 12.6% | +1.3 | 2 from 2 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 2,064 | 278 | 13.5% | +2.2 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 10,702 | 1,253 | 11.7% | +0.4 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 4,994 | 546 | 10.9% | −0.4 | 6 from 10 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 2,469 | 236 | 9.6% | −1.7 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 1,090 | 109 | 10% | −1.3 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 472 | 41 | 8.7% | −2.6 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 86 | 7 | 8.1% | −3.2 | — |
| Over 3m | 4 | 0 | 0% | −11.3 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
7 siblings in the archive, 6 winners — best of them Creative Force (IRE) (7 wins).
The wins came over 6f–1m3½f; the highest grade won is Group 1 (Creative Force (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Creative Force (IRE) | 16 | 7 | 6f–7f | Group 1 |
| Amazour (IRE) | 32 | 7 | 6f–7f | Class 2 |
| Songkran (IRE) | 33 | 6 | 7f–1m3½f | Class 3 |
| Tisbutadream (IRE) | 16 | 5 | 1m | Listed |
| Nelda (IRE) | 7 | 1 | 1m | — |
| Improve (IRE) | 4 | 1 | 1m | Class 5 |
| Mr Zero (IRE) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 4 | 1 | 25% | −2.09 |
| Soft | 3 | 2 | 67% | +9.75 |
| Standard (AW) | 2 | 2 | 100% | +18.25 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.50 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 1 | 4 | 3 | 75% | +11.25 |
| Class 4 | 2 | 2 | 100% | +16.91 |
| Class 2 | 1 | 1 | 100% | +2.25 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ascot | 2 | 2 | 100% | +10.75 |
| Leopardstown | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Newmarket | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Deauville (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sandown | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.50 |
| Chelmsford City (AW) | 1 | 1 | 100% | +2.25 |
| Goodwood | 1 | 1 | 100% | +0.91 |
| Kempton (AW) | 1 | 1 | 100% | +16.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Frankie Dettori | 8 | 4 | 50% | +9.91 |
| Robert Havlin | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.50 |
| Jimmy Fortune | 1 | 1 | 100% | +16.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2017 | 4 | 1 | 25% | +5.00 |
| 2016 | 5 | 4 | 80% | +6.41 |
| 2015 | 1 | 1 | 100% | +16.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
Quick answers
- How many races has Persuasive (IRE) won?
- Persuasive (IRE) won 6 of 10 archived starts between 2015 and 2017, a strike rate of 60%. Placed 9 times in total (90% of starts).
- Who trained Persuasive (IRE)?
- Persuasive (IRE) was trained by John Gosden on the most recent run on record, at Ascot on 21 October 2017.
- Who is Persuasive (IRE)'s sire?
- Persuasive (IRE) is by Dark Angel (IRE) out of Choose Me (IRE), whose sire is Choisir.
- What going does Persuasive (IRE) prefer?
- Persuasive (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 2 wins from 3 starts (66.7%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Persuasive (IRE)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 113, from the run on 21 October 2017. That is also the highest on record.
- What is Persuasive (IRE)'s sire's record?
- Dark Angel (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 21,881 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on firm going: 15% from 107.
- Who are Persuasive (IRE)'s siblings?
- Out of Choose Me (IRE), Persuasive (IRE) has 7 other produce in our archive, 6 of them winners. Most wins: Creative Force (IRE) (7). Highest grade won: Group 1 (Creative Force (IRE)). The wins came over 6f–1m3½f. As at Oct 2026.
- Has Persuasive (IRE) produced winners?
- As a dam, Persuasive (IRE) has 6 produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Theoryofeverything (GB) (5). Highest grade won: Listed (Cajole (GB)). The wins came over 7f–1m2f. As at Oct 2026.