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Horse profile

Primitive Fire (GB)

4yo filly (at last run, Mar 2009) · Last trainer Alistair Whillans · Last owner Richard H Lynn
by Cois Na Tine (IRE) out of Primitive Countess (GB) (Primitive Rising)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Feb 2009
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 8 Mar 2009 — 6,451 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2009
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Feb 2009 and Mar 2009, the last of them as a 4yo filly. By Cois Na Tine (IRE), whose progeny in our archive have won 9.9% of 121 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 73C the best of the last 1 rated run · Ayr, 19 Feb 2009

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 2 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Cois Na Tine (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.9% of 121 runs since Jan 2008 (10 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm2514%−5.9—
Good32618.8%+8.9—
Good to Soft3013.3%−6.6—
Soft28414.3%+4.40 from 2
Heavy500%−9.9—
Standard (AW)100%−9.9—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f400%−9.9—
1m – 1m1f1218.3%−1.6—
1m2f – 1m4f9111.1%+1.2—
1m5f – 2m3925.1%−4.80 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f29517.2%+7.3—
2m5f – 3m25312%+2.10 from 1
Over 3m300%−9.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Primitive Countess (GB) (Primitive Rising)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Kalibs Dream (GB)90——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2009 · 2 runs
08 Mar 09+17d Kelso Fishermans Arms Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m6½f · Soft · 11 ran PU/11 — 10-0 — Brian Harding 100/1
19 Feb 09 Ayr Blue Square Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 2m · Soft · 9 ran 8/9 26 9-7 73C Callum Whillans 33/1

Quick answers

How many races has Primitive Fire won?
Primitive Fire (GB) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2009.
Who trained Primitive Fire?
Primitive Fire (GB) was trained by Alistair Whillans on the most recent run on record, at Kelso on 8 March 2009.
Who is Primitive Fire's sire?
Primitive Fire (GB) is by Cois Na Tine (IRE) out of Primitive Countess (GB), whose sire is Primitive Rising.
What is Primitive Fire's sire's record?
Cois Na Tine (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.9% of 121 runs since Jan 2008 (10 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Primitive Fire's siblings?
Out of Primitive Countess (GB), Primitive Fire (GB) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from February 2009. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.