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Horse profile

Rationale Thinking (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2015) · Last trainer Mark Michael McNiff · Last owner T Mcgowan
by Croco Rouge (IRE) out of Bobsyourdad (IRE) (Bob's Return)
3 runs · 3 courses · from Oct 2014
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 17 Mar 2015 — 4,229 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2015 · 7th of 8
KTB Profile

Rationale Thinking (IRE) is yet to win from 3 starts.

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Sep 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 88C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Down Royal, 17 Mar 2015

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Jumps 3 figures · best 88C · median 83
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Soft1———
Heavy1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f283A82.5—
1m5f – 2m1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Croco Rouge (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 9% of 723 runs since Jan 2008 (74 horses).

Weakest on heavy going: 5.8% from 120.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm500%−9—
Good to Firm7256.9%−2.1—
Good2272511%+20 from 1
Good to Soft10798.4%−0.6—
Soft1741910.9%+1.90 from 1
Heavy12075.8%−3.20 from 1
Standard (AW)1800%−9—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f200%−9—
6f – 7f300%−9—
1m – 1m1f18211.1%+2.1—
1m2f – 1m4f5858.6%−0.4—
1m5f – 2m245197.8%−1.20 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f2272711.9%+2.90 from 2
2m5f – 3m13696.6%−2.4—
Over 3m3438.8%−0.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Bobsyourdad (IRE) (Bob's Return)

4 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Begin The Luck (IRE) (10 wins).

The wins came over 2m–2m5f; the highest grade won is Class 1 (Dark Bolero (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Begin The Luck (IRE)66102m–2m5fClass 4
Swansbrook (IRE)2132m–2m4fClass 3
Dark Bolero (IRE)1422mClass 1
Kantara Star (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Down Royal 1 0 0% −1.00
Carlisle 1 0 0% −1.00
Tipperary 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
1m5f – 2m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Mr N McParlan 1 0 0% −1.00
Derek Fox 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr R P Quinlan 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2015 1 0 0% −1.00
2014 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
17 Mar 15+127d Down Royal Tullyraine Equine Clinic Flat Race 16f · Yielding To Soft · 8 ran 7/8 23 11-9 88C Mr N McParlan 20/1
10 Nov 14+34d Carlisle bookmakers.co.uk Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 17f · Heavy · 7 ran 6/7 7 10-11 82A Derek Fox 33/1
07 Oct 14 Tipperary Season Finale Flat Race 20f · Good · 13 ran 9/13 13 11-11 83A Mr R P Quinlan 16/1

Quick answers

How many races has Rationale Thinking (IRE) won?
Rationale Thinking (IRE) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts between 2014 and 2015.
Who trained Rationale Thinking (IRE)?
Rationale Thinking (IRE) was trained by Mark Michael McNiff on the most recent run on record, at Down Royal on 17 March 2015.
Who is Rationale Thinking (IRE)'s sire?
Rationale Thinking (IRE) is by Croco Rouge (IRE) out of Bobsyourdad (IRE), whose sire is Bob's Return.
What is Rationale Thinking (IRE)'s sire's record?
Croco Rouge (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9% of 723 runs since Jan 2008 (74 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on heavy going: 5.8% from 120.
Who are Rationale Thinking (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Bobsyourdad (IRE), Rationale Thinking (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Begin The Luck (IRE) (10). Highest grade won: Class 1 (Dark Bolero (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–2m5f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from October 2014. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.