Shouldbeanothering (IRE)
Shouldbeanothering is a lightly raced colt by Havana Grey whose progeny in the archive have won 595 of 4,455 runs since Jan 2008. He made his only start in the Stella EBF Maiden Stakes at Ayr in Jul 2025, finishing 2 of 4 on good ground over under 6f in first-time headgear. That remains his best effort.
- 0–1Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- −1.00£1 level staken=1 at SP
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed —
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 1 run · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 13.3% of 4,539 runs since Jan 2008 (417 horses).
Strongest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 16.3% from 104. Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 10.3% from 408.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 22 | 6 | 27.3% | +14 | — |
| Good to Firm | 924 | 144 | 15.6% | +2.3 | — |
| Good | 1,103 | 148 | 13.4% | +0.1 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 415 | 44 | 10.6% | −2.7 | — |
| Soft | 428 | 54 | 12.6% | −0.7 | — |
| Heavy | 88 | 7 | 8% | −5.3 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 1,559 | 202 | 13% | −0.3 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 1,365 | 217 | 15.9% | +2.6 | 0 from 1 |
| 6f – 7f | 2,651 | 329 | 12.4% | −0.9 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 408 | 42 | 10.3% | −3 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 104 | 17 | 16.3% | +3 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 8 | 0 | 0% | −13.3 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 3 | 0 | 0% | −13.3 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.
Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 28 Jul 25 | Ayr | Stella EBF Maiden Stakes (GBB Race) Sat close to pace early - pushed along entering final furlong - unable to quicken final stretch - finished second beaten 3 lengths | 2/4 | 3 | 9-7 | 93C | 84B | Rowan Scott | 4/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Shouldbeanothering (IRE) won?
- Shouldbeanothering (IRE) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2025.
- Who trained Shouldbeanothering (IRE)?
- Shouldbeanothering (IRE) was trained by Alice Haynes on the most recent run on record, at Ayr on 28 July 2025.
- Who is Shouldbeanothering (IRE)'s sire?
- Shouldbeanothering (IRE) is by Havana Grey (GB) out of Smoke Without Fire (GB), whose sire is Lethal Force.
- What is Shouldbeanothering (IRE)'s sire's record?
- Havana Grey (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 13.3% of 4,539 runs since Jan 2008 (417 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 16.3% from 104. Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 10.3% from 408.