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Horse profile

Supposing (IRE)

3yo filly (at last run, Aug 2014) · Last trainer David Wachman · Last owner Derrick Smith Mrs John Magnier Michael Tabor
by Invincible Spirit (IRE) out of Landmark (USA) (Arch)
4 runs · 3 courses · from Aug 2013
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 14 Aug 2014 — 4,444 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2014 · 1st of 9 Won last time out Won at Leopardstown First-time headgear LTO Last raced off OR 81
KTB Profile

Supposing (IRE) is 1 from 4. Won last time out at Leopardstown.

Based on 4 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Sep 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 84A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Leopardstown, 14 Aug 2014 Official rating 81 at the last run, 14 Aug 2014

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Flat 4 figures · best 85A · median 83
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Soft285A84.5—
Good to Soft282A79.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
6f – 7f485A83—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 4 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Invincible Spirit (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 20,806 runs since Jan 2008 (1,573 horses).

Strongest on firm going: 16.1% from 161. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.8% from 843.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1612616.1%+4.2—
Good to Firm3,58146312.9%+1—
Good4,52648610.7%−1.2—
Good to Soft2,13125411.9%00 from 2
Soft2,75630311%−0.91 from 2
Heavy788759.5%−2.4—
Standard (AW)6,86286612.6%+0.7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f3,04539713%+1.1—
6f – 7f9,8251,17812%+0.11 from 4
1m – 1m1f4,50054212%+0.1—
1m2f – 1m4f2,13724911.7%−0.2—
1m5f – 2m843667.8%−4.1—
2m1f – 2m4f360339.2%−2.7—
2m5f – 3m8989%−2.9—
Over 3m7114.3%+2.4—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Landmark (USA) (Arch)

10 siblings in the archive, 6 winners — best of them Solid Stone (IRE) (8 wins).

The wins came over 6f–1m4f; the highest grade won is Group 2 (Solid Stone (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Solid Stone (IRE)2987f–1m3fGroup 2
Cameron Highland (IRE)1551m1f–1m3½fListed
Cairn Island (IRE)936fClass 2
Sour Mash (IRE)821m2fClass 4
Rovaniemi (IRE)1926f–7fClass 3
Field Of Miracles (IRE)611m4fClass 5
Charging Bull (IRE)140——
Madame Chow (IRE)60——
Centerstage (IRE)120——
Ghand (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 2 1 50% +0.75
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Naas 2 0 0% −2.00
Leopardstown 1 1 100% +1.75
Cork 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Wayne Lordan 3 1 33% −0.25
W J Lee 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 3 0 0% −3.00
Cheekpieces 1 1 100% +1.75

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2014 3 1 33% −0.25
2013 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
14 Aug 14+73d Leopardstown Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. Fillies Maiden 7f · Soft · 9 ran 1/9 9-0 8184A Wayne Lordan 7/4F
02 Jun 14+44d Naas Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. Fillies Maiden 7f · Good To Yielding · 14 ran 2/14 2 9-0 —82A Wayne Lordan 7/2
19 Apr 14+257d Cork Best Dressed Lady & Gent Maiden 7f · Good To Yielding · 14 ran 3/14 ¾ 9-0 —77A Wayne Lordan 3/1
05 Aug 13 Naas Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. Maiden 7f · Yielding · 11 ran 3/11 2¾ 9-0 —85A W J Lee 16/1

Quick answers

How many races has Supposing (IRE) won?
Supposing (IRE) won 1 of 4 archived starts between 2013 and 2014, a strike rate of 25%. Placed 4 times in total (100% of starts).
Who trained Supposing (IRE)?
Supposing (IRE) was trained by David Wachman on the most recent run on record, at Leopardstown on 14 August 2014.
Who is Supposing (IRE)'s sire?
Supposing (IRE) is by Invincible Spirit (IRE) out of Landmark (USA), whose sire is Arch.
What is Supposing (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 81, from the run on 14 August 2014. That is also the highest on record.
What is Supposing (IRE)'s sire's record?
Invincible Spirit (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 20,806 runs since Jan 2008 (1,573 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on firm going: 16.1% from 161. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.8% from 843.
Who are Supposing (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Landmark (USA), Supposing (IRE) has 10 other produce in our archive, 6 of them winners. Most wins: Solid Stone (IRE) (8). Highest grade won: Group 2 (Solid Stone (IRE)). The wins came over 6f–1m4f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from August 2013. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.