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Horse profile

Talk Later (IRE)

3yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2012) · Last trainer A Oliver · Last owner A Oliver
by Whipper (USA) out of Prima Volta (GB) (Primo Dominie)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Oct 2012
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 2 Nov 2012 — 5,101 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2012 · 12th of 14
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Oct 2012 and Nov 2012, the last of them as a 3yo gelding. Finished 12 of 14 at Dundalk (AW) last time. By Whipper (USA), whose progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 4,595 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 58C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Dundalk (AW), 2 Nov 2012

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 2 figures · best 58C · median 57.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)1———
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f258C57.5—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 4,595 runs since Jan 2008 (395 horses).

Strongest on heavy going: 13.6% from 513. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 6.7% from 1,127.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm22313.6%+3.8—
Good to Firm3144213.4%+3.6—
Good985878.8%−1—
Good to Soft6176210%+0.2—
Soft1,01611211%+1.2—
Heavy5137013.6%+3.80 from 1
Standard (AW)1,127756.7%−3.10 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f2252812.4%+2.6—
6f – 7f1,3391329.9%+0.1—
1m – 1m1f1,3131299.8%0—
1m2f – 1m4f962919.5%−0.30 from 2
1m5f – 2m425388.9%−0.9—
2m1f – 2m4f232198.2%−1.6—
2m5f – 3m901415.6%+5.8—
Over 3m900%−9.8—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Prima Volta (GB) (Primo Dominie)

7 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them City of The Kings (IRE) (7 wins).

The wins came over 7f–1m4f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (City of The Kings (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
City of The Kings (IRE)4677f–1m2fClass 2
Nova Med (IRE)3741m2f–1m4f—
Our Putra (GB)811mClass 5
Bouncing Bowdler (GB)70——
Front Run (IRE)80——
Prakara (IRE)40——
Ultima Ora (IRE)100——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
02 Nov 12+18d Dundalk (AW) Racing Post Maiden 10.5f · Standard · 14 ran 12/14 1¾ 9-5 58C W J Lee 25/1
15 Oct 12 Roscommon Oran Maiden 10f · Heavy · 10 ran 5/10 4¾ 9-5 57A Chris Hayes 8/1

Quick answers

How many races has Talk Later (IRE) won?
Talk Later (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2012.
Who trained Talk Later (IRE)?
Talk Later (IRE) was trained by A Oliver on the most recent run on record, at Dundalk (AW) on 2 November 2012.
Who is Talk Later (IRE)'s sire?
Talk Later (IRE) is by Whipper (USA) out of Prima Volta (GB), whose sire is Primo Dominie.
What is Talk Later (IRE)'s sire's record?
Whipper (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 4,595 runs since Jan 2008 (395 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on heavy going: 13.6% from 513. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 6.7% from 1,127.
Who are Talk Later (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Prima Volta (GB), Talk Later (IRE) has 7 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: City of The Kings (IRE) (7). Highest grade won: Class 2 (City of The Kings (IRE)). The wins came over 7f–1m4f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from October 2012. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.