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Horse profile

The Same Again (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, Jan 2012) · Last trainer Thomas Cooper · Last owner N Collins
by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Quelle Femme (IRE) (Naheez)
3 runs · 3 courses · from Nov 2011
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 7 Jan 2012 — 5,408 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jan 2012
KTB Profile

The Same Again (IRE) is yet to win from 3 starts.

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 102C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Cork, 6 Nov 2011

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 102C · median 93.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Heavy1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f2102C93.5—

Of 3 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Flemensfirth (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 17,282 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3800%−11.9—
Good to Firm522509.6%−2.3—
Good4,05444210.9%−1—
Good to Soft2,93335412.1%+0.2—
Soft5,87675112.8%+0.90 from 1
Heavy3,81744911.8%−0.10 from 2
Standard (AW)4224.8%−7.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f200%−11.9—
1m2f – 1m4f2514%−7.9—
1m5f – 2m4,48454712.2%+0.3—
2m1f – 2m4f6,08172411.9%00 from 2
2m5f – 3m5,25862311.8%−0.10 from 1
Over 3m1,43215310.7%−1.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Quelle Femme (IRE) (Naheez)

2 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Sergeant Harper (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 2m–2m7½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Sergeant Harper (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Sergeant Harper (IRE)622m–2m7½fClass 4
Thundering Steel (IRE)512m5f—

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Thurles 1 0 0% −1.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Cork 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
B J Cooper 1 0 0% −1.00
Keith Donoghue 1 0 0% −1.00
Mark Walsh 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2012 1 0 0% −1.00
2011 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 2 0 0% −2.00
Hurdle 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2012 · 1 run
07 Jan 12+10d Thurles Devil's Bit Beginners Chase 24f · Heavy · 12 ran UR/12 — 11-12 — B J Cooper 100/1
2011 · 2 runs
28 Dec 11+52d Limerick Emmet Leahy Millstream Memorial Beginners Chase 17f · Heavy · 12 ran 9/12 12 11-9 85C Keith Donoghue 50/1
06 Nov 11 Cork Paddypower.com Mobile Betting I.n.h. Stallion Owners E.B.F. Maiden Hurdle 20f · Soft · 20 ran 15/20 33 11-12 102C Mark Walsh 50/1

Quick answers

How many races has The Same Again won?
The Same Again (IRE) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts between 2011 and 2012.
Who trained The Same Again?
The Same Again (IRE) was trained by Thomas Cooper on the most recent run on record, at Thurles on 7 January 2012.
Who is The Same Again's sire?
The Same Again (IRE) is by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Quelle Femme (IRE), whose sire is Naheez.
What is The Same Again's sire's record?
Flemensfirth (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 17,282 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are The Same Again's siblings?
Out of Quelle Femme (IRE), The Same Again (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Sergeant Harper (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Sergeant Harper (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–2m7½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from November 2011. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.