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Horse profile

Thehorsemaytalk (IRE)

8yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2013) · Last trainer Mark Shears · Last owner J B Shears
by Old Vic (GB) out of Rosealainn (IRE) (Roselier)
5 runs · 3 courses · from May 2013
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 6 Nov 2013 — 4,739 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2013 Last raced off OR 70
KTB Profile

Thehorsemaytalk (IRE) is yet to win from 5 starts. Last raced off 70, 8lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 5 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 109B the best of the last 2 rated runs · Newton Abbot, 28 May 2013 Official rating 70 at the last run, 6 Nov 2013

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 109B · median 103.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good2109B103.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m1———
Over 3m1———

Of 5 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 5 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Old Vic (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.7% of 6,916 runs since Jan 2008 (630 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm30413.3%+1.6—
Good to Firm3974411.1%−0.60 from 1
Good1,79724213.5%+1.80 from 2
Good to Soft1,1691159.8%−1.90 from 1
Soft2,05324912.1%+0.4—
Heavy1,44715710.9%−0.80 from 1
Standard (AW)2300%−11.7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f400%−11.7—
1m2f – 1m4f2428.3%−3.4—
1m5f – 2m1,49917311.5%−0.2—
2m1f – 2m4f2,24926011.6%−0.1—
2m5f – 3m2,39828411.8%+0.10 from 3
Over 3m7429212.4%+0.70 from 2

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Rosealainn (IRE) (Roselier)

5 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them She Ranks Me (IRE) (5 wins).

The wins came over 2m–2m6f; the highest grade won is Listed (She Ranks Me (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
She Ranks Me (IRE)2252m½f–2m6fListed
Dj Pete (IRE)1922m–2m1½fClass 4
Finisk Rose (IRE)2712m—
Woodhill (IRE)20——
King Of Keys (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Newton Abbot 3 0 0% −3.00
Chepstow 1 0 0% −1.00
Southwell 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 3 0 0% −3.00
Over 3m 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Kevin Jones 2 0 0% −2.00
James Davies 2 0 0% −2.00
Mark Quinlan 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 3 0 0% −3.00
Visor 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2013 · 5 runs
06 Nov 13+37d Chepstow HSBC Agriculture Supports R.A.B.I. Handicap Chase Class 4 · 23.5f · Heavy · 12 ran PU/12 — 9-11 70— Mark Quinlan 25/1
30 Sep 13+43d Newton Abbot Newton Abbot Races Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 26f · Good To Soft · 10 ran PU/10 — 10-4 78— Kevin Jones 9/1
18 Aug 13+41d Southwell Cmc Sunshine Beginners' Chase Class 4 · 24f · Good · 6 ran 5/6 5 11-0 —98C James Davies 66/1
08 Jul 13+41d Newton Abbot Try Totequickpick If You're Feeling Lucky Beginners' Chase Class 4 · 21f · Good To Firm · 10 ran PU/10 — 10-7 —— Kevin Jones 50/1
28 May 13 Newton Abbot At The Races Virgin 534 Beginners' Chase Class 4 · 26f · Good · 8 ran 5/8 1½ 11-0 —109B James Davies 22/1

Quick answers

How many races has Thehorsemaytalk won?
Thehorsemaytalk (IRE) has yet to win, from 5 archived starts in 2013.
Who trained Thehorsemaytalk?
Thehorsemaytalk (IRE) was trained by Mark Shears on the most recent run on record, at Chepstow on 6 November 2013.
Who is Thehorsemaytalk's sire?
Thehorsemaytalk (IRE) is by Old Vic (GB) out of Rosealainn (IRE), whose sire is Roselier.
What is Thehorsemaytalk's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 70, from the run on 6 November 2013. The highest on record is 78.
What is Thehorsemaytalk's sire's record?
Old Vic (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.7% of 6,916 runs since Jan 2008 (630 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Thehorsemaytalk's siblings?
Out of Rosealainn (IRE), Thehorsemaytalk (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: She Ranks Me (IRE) (5). Highest grade won: Listed (She Ranks Me (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–2m6f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2013. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.