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Horse profile

There Was A Time (IRE)

5yo gelding (at last run, Dec 2017) · Last trainer Edward P Harty · Last owner John P Mcmanus
by Scorpion (IRE) out of Pairtree (GB) (Double Trigger)
10 runs · 7 courses · from Dec 2016
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 9 Dec 2017 — 3,245 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Dec 2017 · 6th of 23 Last raced off OR 95
KTB Profile

There Was A Time (IRE) is yet to win from 10 starts. Best effort: 4th of 16 at Gowran Park (Jan 2017).

Based on 10 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
Official rating95↓ 5lb off peak
95 95–100

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 138 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Navan, 12 Nov 2017

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 9 figures · best 138B · median 64
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft5132B80—
Heavy2138B100—
Good to Soft262C57—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f480C62—
2m5f – 3m3138B132—
1m5f – 2m296B80—

Of 10 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 9 figures from 10 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 106A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Navan, 9 Dec 2017 Official rating 95 at the last run, 9 Dec 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 10 figures · best 106A · median 95.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft5106A103—
Heavy397C94—
Good to Soft289C83.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f5101C94—
2m5f – 3m3106A90—
1m5f – 2m2106A104.5—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 10 figures from 10 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 6,316 runs since Jan 2008 (609 horses).

Strongest on good to firm going: 14.1% from 142.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm1422014.1%+4.9—
Good2,30423910.4%+1.2—
Good to Soft1,1171009%−0.20 from 2
Soft1,8301397.6%−1.60 from 5
Heavy898778.6%−0.60 from 3
Standard (AW)25312%+2.8—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f300%−9.2—
1m – 1m1f1400%−9.2—
1m2f – 1m4f38410.5%+1.3—
1m5f – 2m1,8541427.7%−1.50 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f2,2982249.7%+0.50 from 5
2m5f – 3m1,77618210.2%+10 from 3
Over 3m333267.8%−1.4—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Pairtree (GB) (Double Trigger)

5 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Clubs Are Trumps (IRE) (7 wins).

The wins came over 2m3½f–3m; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Clubs Are Trumps (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Clubs Are Trumps (IRE)3672m7f–3mClass 4
Provo (IRE)612m5½fClass 4
Cherish The Pear (IRE)512m3½f—
Banrion Scairp (IRE)30——
Maizy (GB)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 5 0 0% −5.00
Heavy 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Fairyhouse 3 0 0% −3.00
Navan 2 0 0% −2.00
Downpatrick 1 0 0% −1.00
Kilbeggan 1 0 0% −1.00
Tipperary 1 0 0% −1.00
Naas 1 0 0% −1.00
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 5 0 0% −5.00
2m5f – 3m 3 0 0% −3.00
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Mark Enright 3 0 0% −3.00
Donal McInerney 2 0 0% −2.00
Jody McGarvey 1 0 0% −1.00
L P Dempsey 1 0 0% −1.00
Ben Dalton 1 0 0% −1.00
Katie O'Farrell 1 0 0% −1.00
Mark Walsh 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 9 0 0% −9.00
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2017 9 0 0% −9.00
2016 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 7 0 0% −7.00
Chase 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2017 · 9 runs
09 Dec 17+27d Navan John Lynch Carpets Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 22f · Soft · 23 ran 6/23 13 10-12 95132B106A Jody McGarvey 25/1
12 Nov 17+36d Navan Meath Farm Machinery Handicap Hurdle (80-116) 22f · Soft To Heavy · 10 ran 10/10 hd 10-7 97138B90A L P Dempsey 33/1
07 Oct 17+15d Fairyhouse Adare Manor Opportunity Handicap Chase (0-109) 21f · Good To Yielding · 16 ran 12/16 18 10-10 9752C78C Donal McInerney 20/1
22 Sep 17+14d Downpatrick Irish Stallion Farms EBF Beginners Chase 19f · Soft To Heavy · 13 ran 10/13 3 11-12 97—94C Mark Enright 25/1
08 Sep 17+47d Kilbeggan Midland Breeders Supporting Kilbeggan Beginners Chase 20f · Soft · 11 ran 9/11 31 11-12 —23C93C Ben Dalton 25/1
23 Jul 17+162d Tipperary Adare Manor Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 20f · Good To Yielding · 18 ran 14/18 2¼ 11-1 9962C89C Donal McInerney 12/1
11 Feb 17+16d Naas Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 16f · Soft · 15 ran 10/15 2¾ 11-3 10064B103A Katie O'Farrell 12/1
26 Jan 17+25d Gowran Park Langton House Hotel Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft · 16 ran 4/16 12 11-10 —96B106A Mark Walsh 66/1
01 Jan 17+15d Fairyhouse Happy New Year Maiden Hurdle 20f · Soft · 15 ran 8/15 1¾ 11-9 —80C101C Mark Enright 66/1
2016 · 1 run
17 Dec 16 Fairyhouse Great Sponsorship Packages At Fairyhouse, Enquire Today Maiden Hurdle 20f · Soft To Heavy · 15 ran 8/15 13 11-3 —62C97C Mark Enright 40/1

Quick answers

How many races has There Was A Time won?
There Was A Time (IRE) has yet to win, from 10 archived starts between 2016 and 2017.
Who trained There Was A Time?
There Was A Time (IRE) was trained by Edward P Harty on the most recent run on record, at Navan on 9 December 2017.
Who is There Was A Time's sire?
There Was A Time (IRE) is by Scorpion (IRE) out of Pairtree (GB), whose sire is Double Trigger.
What is There Was A Time's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 95, from the run on 9 December 2017. The highest on record is 100.
What is There Was A Time's sire's record?
Scorpion (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 6,316 runs since Jan 2008 (609 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 14.1% from 142.
Who are There Was A Time's siblings?
Out of Pairtree (GB), There Was A Time (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Clubs Are Trumps (IRE) (7). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Clubs Are Trumps (IRE)). The wins came over 2m3½f–3m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from December 2016. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.