Thereorthereabouts (IRE)
Lightly raced, with 1 archived start in Jul 2014 as a 6yo mare. Finished 3 of 6 at Southwell last time. By Kalanisi (IRE), whose progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 6,745 runs since Jan 2008.
- 0–1Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- −1.00£1 level staken=1 at SP
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 6,745 runs since Jan 2008 (648 horses).
Strongest on good to firm going: 16.1% from 355.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 14 | 5 | 35.7% | +25.2 | — |
| Good to Firm | 355 | 57 | 16.1% | +5.6 | — |
| Good | 2,079 | 211 | 10.1% | −0.4 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 1,148 | 139 | 12.1% | +1.6 | — |
| Soft | 1,965 | 175 | 8.9% | −1.6 | — |
| Heavy | 886 | 90 | 10.2% | −0.3 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 298 | 32 | 10.7% | +0.2 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 11 | 0 | 0% | −10.5 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 69 | 3 | 4.3% | −6.2 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 166 | 16 | 9.6% | −0.9 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 401 | 50 | 12.5% | +2 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 2,226 | 232 | 10.4% | −0.1 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 2,092 | 220 | 10.5% | 0 | 0 from 1 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 1,476 | 152 | 10.3% | −0.2 | — |
| Over 3m | 304 | 36 | 11.8% | +1.3 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Casterly Rock (IRE) (1 win).
The wins came over 2m.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Casterly Rock (IRE) | 6 | 1 | 2m | — |
| Christening Spoon (IRE) | 13 | 0 | — | — |
| Drumlee Getaway (IRE) | 6 | 0 | — | — |
Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2014 · 1 run | ||||||||
| 22 Jul 14 | Southwell | Ladbrokes Mares' Novices' Hurdle | 3/6 | 10 | 10-12 | 101B | Adrian Lane | 20/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Thereorthereabouts won?
- Thereorthereabouts (IRE) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2014.
- Who trained Thereorthereabouts?
- Thereorthereabouts (IRE) was trained by Donald McCain on the most recent run on record, at Southwell on 22 July 2014.
- Who is Thereorthereabouts's sire?
- Thereorthereabouts (IRE) is by Kalanisi (IRE) out of The Vicars Lady (IRE), whose sire is Old Vic.
- What is Thereorthereabouts's sire's record?
- Kalanisi (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 6,745 runs since Jan 2008 (648 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 16.1% from 355.
- Who are Thereorthereabouts's siblings?
- Out of The Vicars Lady (IRE), Thereorthereabouts (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Casterly Rock (IRE) (1). The wins came over 2m. As at Oct 2026.