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Horse profile

Threatening To Pay (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, Feb 2009) · Last trainer Evan Williams · Last owner Mr Mrs William Rucker
by Moscow Society (USA) out of Niat Supreme (IRE) (Supreme Leader)
3 runs · 3 courses · from Oct 2008
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 18 Feb 2009 — 6,461 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Feb 2009 · 2nd of 10 Last raced off OR 125
KTB Profile

Threatening To Pay (IRE) is yet to win from 3 starts, though has placed 3 times. Best effort: 2nd of 10 at Ludlow (Feb 2009).

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 130A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Wincanton, 26 Oct 2008 Official rating 125 at the last run, 18 Feb 2009

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 130A · median 128
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good to Soft2130A124—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m1———
2m1f – 2m4f1———
1m5f – 2m1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Moscow Society (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 8.3% of 2,521 runs since Jan 2008 (255 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2114.8%−3.5—
Good to Firm257207.8%−0.5—
Good817799.7%+1.4—
Good to Soft378277.1%−1.20 from 2
Soft624477.5%−0.80 from 1
Heavy415368.7%+0.4—
Standard (AW)900%−8.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f100%−8.3—
1m2f – 1m4f500%−8.3—
1m5f – 2m529478.9%+0.60 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f1,017838.2%−0.10 from 1
2m5f – 3m788627.9%−0.40 from 1
Over 3m181189.9%+1.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Niat Supreme (IRE) (Supreme Leader)

8 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Aunt Nora (IRE) (3 wins).

The wins came over 2m3½f–3m½f; the highest grade won is Grade 2 (Aunt Nora (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Aunt Nora (IRE)1532m4f–3m½fGrade 2
Redunderthebed (IRE)112m3½fClass 4
Oscar Supreme (IRE)70——
Cree Cross (IRE)50——
Aunt Berry (IRE)50——
Dromlease Express (IRE)40——
Rachel's Mark (IRE)50——
Mere Peak (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Ludlow 1 0 0% −1.00
Chepstow 1 0 0% −1.00
Wincanton 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00
1m5f – 2m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Paul Moloney 2 0 0% −2.00
Wayne Hutchinson 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2009 1 0 0% −1.00
2008 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2009 · 1 run
18 Feb 09+53d Ludlow Emma Wilding 18th Birthday Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 24f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 2/10 16 11-4 125118B Paul Moloney 9/4
2008 · 2 runs
27 Dec 08+62d Chepstow Coral.co.uk Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 19.5f · Soft · 14 ran 3/14 3½ 10-12 117128A Paul Moloney 15/2
26 Oct 08 Wincanton Paul Nicholls Racing 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle (Div 2) Class 4 · 15.5f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 3/10 hd 10-12 125130A Wayne Hutchinson 12/1

Quick answers

How many races has Threatening To Pay won?
Threatening To Pay (IRE) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts between 2008 and 2009. Placed 3 times in total (100% of starts).
Who trained Threatening To Pay?
Threatening To Pay (IRE) was trained by Evan Williams on the most recent run on record, at Ludlow on 18 February 2009.
Who is Threatening To Pay's sire?
Threatening To Pay (IRE) is by Moscow Society (USA) out of Niat Supreme (IRE), whose sire is Supreme Leader.
What is Threatening To Pay's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 125, from the run on 18 February 2009. That is also the highest on record.
What is Threatening To Pay's sire's record?
Moscow Society (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.3% of 2,521 runs since Jan 2008 (255 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Threatening To Pay's siblings?
Out of Niat Supreme (IRE), Threatening To Pay (IRE) has 8 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Aunt Nora (IRE) (3). Highest grade won: Grade 2 (Aunt Nora (IRE)). The wins came over 2m3½f–3m½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from October 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.