How many races has Try It On John (IRE) won?

Try It On John (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2022.

Who trained Try It On John (IRE)?

Try It On John (IRE) was trained by Paul Tobin on the most recent run on record, at Kilbeggan on 19 August 2022.

Who is Try It On John (IRE)'s sire?

Try It On John (IRE) is by Sageburg (IRE) out of Shades of Beige (UAE), whose sire is Timber Country.

What is Try It On John (IRE)'s sire's record?

Sageburg (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10% of 3,472 runs since Jan 2008 (414 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on heavy going: 13.4% from 389. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 2.4% from 293. Strongest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 13.3% from 353.

Horse profile

Try It On John (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2022) · Last trainer Paul Tobin · Last owner Brian Gallivan

by Sageburg (IRE) out of Shades of Beige (UAE) (Timber Country)

2 runs · 2 courses · from Aug 2022

As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily

No run recorded since 19 Aug 2022 — 1,524 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.

Last run Aug 2022

KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts, both in Aug 2022, the last of them as a 6yo gelding. By Sageburg (IRE), whose progeny in our archive have won 10% of 3,472 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026

0–2Wins / Runs
0%Strike rate
0 (0%)Placed
−2.00£1 level staken=2 at SP
18dAvg between runs

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 2 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 2 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 87^C the best of the last 1 rated run · Cork, 1 Aug 2022

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 2 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Sageburg (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 10% of 3,472 runs since Jan 2008 (414 horses).

Strongest on heavy going: 13.4% from 389. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 2.4% from 293. Strongest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 13.3% from 353.

Going	Runs	Wins	SR	vs sire	This horse
Firm	2	0	0%	−10	—
Good to Firm	45	7	15.6%	+5.6	—
Good	1,064	108	10.2%	+0.2	0 from 1
Good to Soft	647	71	11%	+1	0 from 1
Soft	1,031	100	9.7%	−0.3	—
Heavy	389	52	13.4%	+3.4	—
Standard (AW)	293	7	2.4%	−7.6	—

Distance (all codes)	Runs	Wins	SR	vs sire	This horse
Under 6f	44	6	13.6%	+3.6	—
6f – 7f	292	22	7.5%	−2.5	—
1m – 1m1f	320	29	9.1%	−0.9	—
1m2f – 1m4f	215	16	7.4%	−2.6	—
1m5f – 2m	965	97	10.1%	+0.1	—
2m1f – 2m4f	1,227	123	10%	0	0 from 1
2m5f – 3m	353	47	13.3%	+3.3	—
Over 3m	56	6	10.7%	+0.7	0 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

Shades of Beige (UAE) (Timber Country)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

Date	Course	Race	Pos	Btn	Wgt	Spd	KTB	Jockey	SP
19 Aug 22+18d	Kilbeggan	Moyvalley Meats Maiden Hurdle 25f · Good · 11 ran	PU/11	—	11-4	—	—	Ricky Doyle	125/1
01 Aug 22	Cork	Adare Manor Opportunity Maiden Hurdle 19f · Good To Yielding · 19 ran	17/19	2	11-8	-2^C	87^C	Thomas Reilly	150/1

Quick answers

How many races has Try It On John (IRE) won?: Try It On John (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2022.
Who trained Try It On John (IRE)?: Try It On John (IRE) was trained by Paul Tobin on the most recent run on record, at Kilbeggan on 19 August 2022.
Who is Try It On John (IRE)'s sire?: Try It On John (IRE) is by Sageburg (IRE) out of Shades of Beige (UAE), whose sire is Timber Country.
What is Try It On John (IRE)'s sire's record?: Sageburg (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10% of 3,472 runs since Jan 2008 (414 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on heavy going: 13.4% from 389. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 2.4% from 293. Strongest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 13.3% from 353.