Up For Discussion (GB)
Up For Discussion (GB) is yet to win from 8 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 2nd of 9 at Downpatrick (Sep 2017). Last raced off a career-high mark of 106.
- 0–8Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 1 (12.5%)Placed
- −8.00£1 level staken=8 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=8 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 106Highest OR
- 53dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 95
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 28 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Heavy | 2 | 127C | 125 | — |
| Good | 1 | — | — | — |
| Good to Soft | 1 | — | — | — |
| Soft | 1 | — | — | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 28 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m5f – 3m | 2 | 123C | 99 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 2 | 95B | 91 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 1 | — | — | — |
Of 8 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (3).
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 8 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 12.6% of 13,744 runs since Jan 2008 (1,148 horses).
Strongest on heavy going: 16.2% from 1,708.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 13 | 0 | 0% | −12.6 | — |
| Good to Firm | 529 | 60 | 11.3% | −1.3 | — |
| Good | 4,492 | 524 | 11.7% | −0.9 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 3,049 | 359 | 11.8% | −0.8 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 3,760 | 493 | 13.1% | +0.5 | 0 from 4 |
| Heavy | 1,708 | 277 | 16.2% | +3.6 | 0 from 2 |
| Standard (AW) | 193 | 24 | 12.4% | −0.2 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −12.6 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 24 | 0 | 0% | −12.6 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 163 | 18 | 11% | −1.6 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 3,976 | 521 | 13.1% | +0.5 | 0 from 3 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 4,759 | 593 | 12.5% | −0.1 | 0 from 1 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 3,816 | 479 | 12.6% | 0 | 0 from 3 |
| Over 3m | 1,004 | 126 | 12.5% | −0.1 | 0 from 1 |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
6 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Sara's Smile (GB) (3 wins).
The wins came over 2m–2m7½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Sara's Smile (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sara's Smile (GB) | 18 | 3 | 2m–2m1f | Class 4 |
| Stormyisland Ahead (GB) | 26 | 3 | 2m½f–2m7½f | Class 4 |
| Amzac Magic (GB) | 16 | 2 | 2m4f–2m5½f | Class 5 |
| Flame of Desire (GB) | 1 | 1 | 2m | Class 6 |
| Dream Destiny (GB) | 10 | 0 | — | — |
| Chuggys Queen (GB) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Heavy | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Downpatrick | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Bellewstown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Roscommon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Limerick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Gowran Park | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Naas | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tipperary | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m5f – 3m | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Over 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jody McGarvey | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Mark Walsh | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| L P Dempsey | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ben Dalton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Donal McInerney | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Tongue tie | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2017 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2016 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2017 · 4 runs | ||||||||||
| 13 Oct 17+21d | Downpatrick | I.n.h. Stallion Owners Ebf Maiden Hurdle | PU/9 | — | 11-4 | 106 | — | — | Mark Walsh | 13/2 |
| 22 Sep 17+76d | Downpatrick | White Horse Maiden Hurdle | 2/9 | 4¼ | 11-12 | 106 | 123C | 116A | Mark Walsh | 1/2F |
| 08 Jul 17+25d | Bellewstown | Sean Rothwell Construction Handicap Hurdle (80-109) | 12/16 | 4½ | 11-9 | 106 | 75B | 99A | Jody McGarvey | 7/2F |
| 13 Jun 17+169d | Roscommon | Ocr Waste Management Handicap Hurdle (80-109) | F/17 | — | 11-9 | 105 | — | — | Jody McGarvey | 14/1 |
| 2016 · 4 runs | ||||||||||
| 26 Dec 16+30d | Limerick | Futureticketing.ie Maiden Hurdle | 7/13 | 4¼ | 11-4 | — | 127C | 104C | L P Dempsey | 12/1 |
| 26 Nov 16+14d | Gowran Park | Race That Stops A County Thyestes Jan 26th 2017 Maiden Hurdle | 6/11 | 3¼ | 11-9 | — | 95B | 109A | Ben Dalton | 66/1 |
| 12 Nov 16+39d | Naas | Hospitality At Naas Maiden Hurdle | F/22 | — | 11-12 | — | — | — | Jody McGarvey | 50/1 |
| 04 Oct 16 | Tipperary | Join The Tipperary Supporter's Club 2017 (c & G) Maiden Hurdle | 5/16 | 1¼ | 10-11 | — | 87B | 105A | Donal McInerney | 66/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Up For Discussion won?
- Up For Discussion (GB) has yet to win, from 8 archived starts between 2016 and 2017. Placed 1 time in total (12.5% of starts).
- Who trained Up For Discussion?
- Up For Discussion (GB) was trained by E Bolger on the most recent run on record, at Downpatrick on 13 October 2017.
- Who is Up For Discussion's sire?
- Up For Discussion (GB) is by Kayf Tara (GB) out of Queen's Banquet (GB), whose sire is Glacial Storm.
- What is Up For Discussion's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 106, from the run on 13 October 2017. That is also the highest on record.
- What is Up For Discussion's sire's record?
- Kayf Tara (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.6% of 13,744 runs since Jan 2008 (1,148 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on heavy going: 16.2% from 1,708.
- Who are Up For Discussion's siblings?
- Out of Queen's Banquet (GB), Up For Discussion (GB) has 6 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Sara's Smile (GB) (3). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Sara's Smile (GB)). The wins came over 2m–2m7½f. As at Oct 2026.