How many races has Waiting Forever won?

Waiting Forever (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts between 2019 and 2021.

Who trained Waiting Forever?

Waiting Forever (IRE) was trained by Sue Smith on the most recent run on record, at Newcastle on 9 March 2021.

Who is Waiting Forever's sire?

Waiting Forever (IRE) is by Witness Box (USA) out of You Some Massini (IRE), whose sire is Dr Massini.

What is Waiting Forever's sire's record?

Witness Box (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,675 runs since Jan 2008 (194 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to firm going: 4% from 173.

Who are Waiting Forever's siblings?

Out of You Some Massini (IRE), Waiting Forever (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: You Some Boy (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Class 4 (You Some Boy (IRE)). The wins came over 2m4½f–3m½f. As at Oct 2026.

Horse profile

Waiting Forever (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2021) · Last trainer Sue Smith · Last owner John Wade

by Witness Box (USA) out of You Some Massini (IRE) (Dr Massini)

2 runs · 2 courses · from Nov 2019

As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily

No run recorded since 9 Mar 2021 — 2,059 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.

Last run Mar 2021 · 9th of 15

KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Nov 2019 and Mar 2021, the last of them as a 7yo gelding. Finished 9 of 15 at Newcastle last time. By Witness Box (USA), whose progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,675 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

0–2Wins / Runs
0%Strike rate
0 (0%)Placed
−2.00£1 level staken=2 at SP
492dAvg between runs

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 89^C · median 86

Going	Runs	Best	Median	Since 28 Oct 2025
Good to Soft	1	—	—	—
Soft	1	—	—	—

Distance	Runs	Best	Median	Since 28 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f	2	89^C	86	—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 91^C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Carlisle, 3 Nov 2019

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 91^C · median 90

Going	Runs	Best	Median	Since 28 Oct 2025
Good to Soft	1	—	—	—
Soft	1	—	—	—

Distance	Runs	Best	Median	Since 28 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f	2	91^C	90	—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Witness Box (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,675 runs since Jan 2008 (194 horses).

Weakest on good to firm going: 4% from 173.

Going	Runs	Wins	SR	vs sire	This horse
Firm	25	2	8%	−1.1	—
Good to Firm	173	7	4%	−5.1	—
Good	651	54	8.3%	−0.8	—
Good to Soft	396	36	9.1%	0	0 from 1
Soft	768	78	10.2%	+1.1	0 from 1
Heavy	653	66	10.1%	+1	—
Standard (AW)	9	0	0%	−9.1	—

Distance (all codes)	Runs	Wins	SR	vs sire	This horse
1m – 1m1f	4	0	0%	−9.1	—
1m2f – 1m4f	9	0	0%	−9.1	—
1m5f – 2m	491	40	8.1%	−1	—
2m1f – 2m4f	867	77	8.9%	−0.2	0 from 2
2m5f – 3m	1,020	100	9.8%	+0.7	—
Over 3m	284	26	9.2%	+0.1	—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

You Some Massini (IRE) (Dr Massini)

2 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them You Some Boy (IRE) (4 wins).

The wins came over 2m4½f–3m½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (You Some Boy (IRE)).

Produce	Runs	Wins	Win trips	Best grade
You Some Boy (IRE)	16	4	2m4½f–3m½f	Class 4
Ballytier Warrior (IRE)	6	0	—	—

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

Date	Course	Race	Pos	Btn	Wgt	Spd	KTB	Jockey	SP
2021 · 1 run
09 Mar 21+492d	Newcastle	QuinnBet Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 20.5f · Good To Soft · 15 ran	9/15	2½	11-2	83^C	89^C	Ryan Mania	66/1
2019 · 1 run
03 Nov 19	Carlisle	Every Race Live On Racing TV Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 5 · 17f · Soft · 14 ran	10/14	1¼	11-0	89^C	91^C	Danny Cook	66/1

Quick answers

How many races has Waiting Forever won?: Waiting Forever (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts between 2019 and 2021.
Who trained Waiting Forever?: Waiting Forever (IRE) was trained by Sue Smith on the most recent run on record, at Newcastle on 9 March 2021.
Who is Waiting Forever's sire?: Waiting Forever (IRE) is by Witness Box (USA) out of You Some Massini (IRE), whose sire is Dr Massini.
What is Waiting Forever's sire's record?: Witness Box (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,675 runs since Jan 2008 (194 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to firm going: 4% from 173.
Who are Waiting Forever's siblings?: Out of You Some Massini (IRE), Waiting Forever (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: You Some Boy (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Class 4 (You Some Boy (IRE)). The wins came over 2m4½f–3m½f. As at Oct 2026.