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Horse profile

Whatwillwetellhim (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Dec 2009) · Last trainer Michael Winters · Last owner Michael Winters
by Witness Box (USA) out of Rose Of Solway (IRE) (Derring Rose)
1 run · 1 course · from Dec 2009
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 18 Dec 2009 — 6,158 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Dec 2009
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 1 archived start in Dec 2009 as a 6yo gelding. By Witness Box (USA), whose progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,675 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 1 archived run · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Of 1 run looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 1 run · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Witness Box (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,675 runs since Jan 2008 (194 horses).

Weakest on good to firm going: 4% from 173.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2528%−1.1—
Good to Firm17374%−5.1—
Good651548.3%−0.8—
Good to Soft396369.1%0—
Soft7687810.2%+1.10 from 1
Heavy6536610.1%+1—
Standard (AW)900%−9.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f400%−9.1—
1m2f – 1m4f900%−9.1—
1m5f – 2m491408.1%−1—
2m1f – 2m4f867778.9%−0.2—
2m5f – 3m1,0201009.8%+0.70 from 1
Over 3m284269.2%+0.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Rose Of Solway (IRE) (Derring Rose)

3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Fromthetop (IRE) (1 win).

The wins came over 2m7f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Fromthetop (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Fromthetop (IRE)1612m7fClass 5
Miss Sallyfield (IRE)60——
Carnkirk (IRE)70——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2009 · 1 run
18 Dec 09 Downpatrick Saintfield Window Systems Maiden Hunters Chase 21.5f · Yielding To Soft · 15 ran F/15 — 12-0 — Mr M J O'Connor 11/2

Quick answers

How many races has Whatwillwetellhim won?
Whatwillwetellhim (IRE) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2009.
Who trained Whatwillwetellhim?
Whatwillwetellhim (IRE) was trained by Michael Winters on the most recent run on record, at Downpatrick on 18 December 2009.
Who is Whatwillwetellhim's sire?
Whatwillwetellhim (IRE) is by Witness Box (USA) out of Rose Of Solway (IRE), whose sire is Derring Rose.
What is Whatwillwetellhim's sire's record?
Witness Box (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,675 runs since Jan 2008 (194 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to firm going: 4% from 173.
Who are Whatwillwetellhim's siblings?
Out of Rose Of Solway (IRE), Whatwillwetellhim (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Fromthetop (IRE) (1). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Fromthetop (IRE)). The wins came over 2m7f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from December 2009. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.