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Horse profile

Who Said That (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2018) · Last trainer Niall Madden · Last owner Nile Orourke
by Beneficial (GB) out of Dipper's Double (IRE) (Taipan)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Feb 2017
As at 6 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 17 Nov 2018 — 2,910 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2018 · 6th of 6
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Feb 2017 and Nov 2018, the last of them as a 7yo gelding. Finished 6 of 6 at Punchestown last time. By Beneficial (GB), whose progeny in our archive have won 10.4% of 17,046 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 6 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 2 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 2 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 72C the best of the last 1 rated run · Punchestown, 17 Nov 2018

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 63C the best of the last 1 rated run · Fairyhouse, 25 Feb 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown
Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Beneficial (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.4% of 17,046 runs since Jan 2008 (1,155 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm6657.6%−2.8—
Good to Firm93910711.4%+1—
Good5,29754910.4%00 from 1
Good to Soft2,46726710.8%+0.4—
Soft5,05751910.3%−0.1—
Heavy3,15932810.4%00 from 1
Standard (AW)6169.8%−0.6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f200%−10.4—
1m – 1m1f10110%−0.4—
1m2f – 1m4f6457.8%−2.6—
1m5f – 2m4,89050210.3%−0.10 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f6,35666110.4%0—
2m5f – 3m4,70252211.1%+0.7—
Over 3m1,022908.8%−1.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 6 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Dipper's Double (IRE) (Taipan)

4 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Scarlet Rebel (IRE)50——
Dipper's Nipper (IRE)10——
Listentothewomen (IRE)20——
Doing The Double (IRE)20——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2018 · 1 run
17 Nov 18+630d Punchestown Goffs (Pro/Am) Flat Race 2m½f · Good · 6 ran 6/6 86 11-0 62C72C Mr N O'Rourke 66/1
2017 · 1 run
25 Feb 17 Fairyhouse Ian Smith Memorial (Pro/Am) Flat Race 2m · Heavy · 5 ran 3/5 8½ 11-7 —63C Mr N O'Rourke 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Who Said That won?
Who Said That (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts between 2017 and 2018.
Who trained Who Said That?
Who Said That (IRE) was trained by Niall Madden on the most recent run on record, at Punchestown on 17 November 2018.
Who is Who Said That's sire?
Who Said That (IRE) is by Beneficial (GB) out of Dipper's Double (IRE), whose sire is Taipan.
What is Who Said That's sire's record?
Beneficial (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.4% of 17,046 runs since Jan 2008 (1,155 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Who Said That's siblings?
Out of Dipper's Double (IRE), Who Said That (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from February 2017. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.