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Horse profile

Whos Kidding (IRE)

4yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2005) · Last trainer John A Quinn · Last owner Mrs Dorothy E Quinn
by Charnwood Forest (IRE) out of Kalagold (IRE) (Magical Strike)
4 runs · 4 courses · from Jan 2005
As at 6 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 1 Aug 2005 — 7,766 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2005 · 11th of 19
KTB Profile

Whos Kidding (IRE) is yet to win from 4 starts.

Based on 4 archived runs · updated 6 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 77C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Tipperary, 9 Jun 2005

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 4 figures · best 77C · median 69.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Good277C76.5—
Heavy263C63—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m377C63—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 4 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Charnwood Forest (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 4.7% of 232 runs since Jan 2008 (22 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm200%−4.7—
Good to Firm3512.9%−1.8—
Good7134.2%−0.50 from 2
Good to Soft3837.9%+3.2—
Soft4724.3%−0.4—
Heavy1815.6%+0.90 from 2
Standard (AW)2114.8%+0.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f400%−4.7—
1m – 1m1f2114.8%+0.1—
1m2f – 1m4f1300%−4.7—
1m5f – 2m7234.2%−0.50 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f7867.7%+30 from 1
2m5f – 3m3100%−4.7—
Over 3m1317.7%+3—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Kalagold (IRE) (Magical Strike)

5 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Wake Up Maggie (IRE) (4 wins).

The wins came over 5f–2m4½f; the highest grade won is Group 3 (Wake Up Maggie (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Wake Up Maggie (IRE)1545f–7fGroup 3
Dire Straits (IRE)1931m4f–2m4½fClass 4
Star Alliance (IRE)1012mClass 6
Leveleo (IRE)60——
Kalabunga (IRE)60——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Naas 1 0 0% −1.00
Tipperary 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 3 0 0% −3.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Mr S Keating 3 0 0% −3.00
Mr B Connell 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Tongue tie 2 0 0% −2.00
None 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2005 · 4 runs
01 Aug 05+53d Naas Go Racing In Kildare INH Flat Race 2m3f · Good · 19 ran 11/19 14 11-2 76C Mr S Keating 25/1
09 Jun 05+130d Tipperary Castletroy INH Flat Race 2m · Good · 19 ran 19/19 1½ 10-9 77C Mr S Keating 20/1
30 Jan 05+14d Punchestown Rockview (Q.R.) INH Flat Race 2m · Soft To Heavy · 11 ran 9/11 11 11-0 63C Mr B Connell 33/1
16 Jan 05 Fairyhouse Rockview (Q.R.) I.N.H. Flat Race 2m · Soft To Heavy · 18 ran 15/18 3 10-11 63C Mr S Keating 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Whos Kidding won?
Whos Kidding (IRE) has yet to win, from 4 archived starts in 2005.
Who trained Whos Kidding?
Whos Kidding (IRE) was trained by John A Quinn on the most recent run on record, at Naas on 1 August 2005.
Who is Whos Kidding's sire?
Whos Kidding (IRE) is by Charnwood Forest (IRE) out of Kalagold (IRE), whose sire is Magical Strike.
What is Whos Kidding's sire's record?
Charnwood Forest (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 4.7% of 232 runs since Jan 2008 (22 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Whos Kidding's siblings?
Out of Kalagold (IRE), Whos Kidding (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Wake Up Maggie (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Group 3 (Wake Up Maggie (IRE)). The wins came over 5f–2m4½f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from January 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.