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Horse profile

Whosethatfor (IRE)

8yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2008) · Last trainer Jim Old · Last owner W E Sturt
by Beneficial (GB) out of Native Craft (IRE) (Be My Native)
10 runs · 8 courses · from Jan 2005
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 18 Mar 2008 — 6,792 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2008 Last raced off OR 89
KTB Profile

Whosethatfor (IRE) is yet to win from 10 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 2nd of 11 at Exeter (Dec 2005). Last raced off 89, 16lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 10 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 16lb off peak
Official rating89↓ 16lb off peak
89 89–105

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 107C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Sandown, 16 Feb 2007 Official rating 89 at the last run, 18 Mar 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 7 figures · best 110C · median 100
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Soft2110C101—
Heavy2107C103—
Good to Soft2102C94—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f3110C107—
1m5f – 2m3100C99—
Over 3m1———

Of 10 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 7 figures from 10 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Beneficial (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 17,043 runs since Jan 2008 (1,155 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm6657.6%−2.9—
Good to Firm93910711.4%+0.9—
Good5,29554910.4%−0.10 from 2
Good to Soft2,46626710.8%+0.30 from 2
Soft5,05751910.3%−0.20 from 4
Heavy3,15932810.4%−0.10 from 2
Standard (AW)6169.8%−0.7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f200%−10.5—
1m – 1m1f10110%−0.5—
1m2f – 1m4f6457.8%−2.7—
1m5f – 2m4,89050210.3%−0.20 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f6,35566110.4%−0.10 from 3
2m5f – 3m4,70052211.1%+0.60 from 2
Over 3m1,022908.8%−1.70 from 2

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Native Craft (IRE) (Be My Native)

8 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Very Stylish (IRE) (4 wins).

The wins came over 2m–3m; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Very Stylish (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Very Stylish (IRE)3242m4f–3mClass 3
West Torr (IRE)1612m4fClass 4
Zenaide (IRE)212m—
Kerb Line (IRE)90——
Mister Tibbs (IRE)50——
Ifsoluso (IRE)70——
Oso Crafty (IRE)30——
Gods Ground (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 4 0 0% −4.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 8 0 0% −8.00
Class 6 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Warwick 2 0 0% −2.00
Sandown 2 0 0% −2.00
Chepstow 1 0 0% −1.00
Lingfield 1 0 0% −1.00
Worcester 1 0 0% −1.00
Bangor-on-Dee 1 0 0% −1.00
Exeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 3 0 0% −3.00
1m5f – 2m 3 0 0% −3.00
Over 3m 2 0 0% −2.00
2m5f – 3m 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Jason Maguire 6 0 0% −6.00
Robert L Butler 2 0 0% −2.00
Wayne Hutchinson 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2008 2 0 0% −2.00
2007 3 0 0% −3.00
2006 2 0 0% −2.00
2005 3 0 0% −3.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 5 0 0% −5.00
Chase 3 0 0% −3.00
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
18 Mar 08+10d Warwick Flat Season Next Handicap Chase Class 4 · 29f · Soft · 6 ran PU/6 — 10-13 89— Robert L Butler 7/1
08 Mar 08+101d Chepstow Dave Nevison On WBX.COM Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 26f · Soft · 10 ran 5/10 hd 11-8 9692C Robert L Butler 16/1
28 Nov 07+262d Lingfield lingfieldpark.co.uk Handicap Chase Class 4 · 24f · Good · 9 ran PU/9 — 11-3 101— Jason Maguire 6/1
11 Mar 07+23d Warwick No Smoking Day Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 21f · Soft · 12 ran PU/12 — 11-7 105— Jason Maguire 8/1
16 Feb 07+121d Sandown olbg.co.uk Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Heavy · 13 ran 5/13 1¼ 11-7 105107C Jason Maguire 10/1
18 Oct 06+207d Worcester wbx.com World Bet Exchange Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Good To Soft · 16 ran 4/16 12 10-12 105102C Jason Maguire 25/1
25 Mar 06+113d Bangor-on-Dee Lesley Courtney Memorial Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 16.5f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 7/14 nk 11-0 —86C Jason Maguire 15/2
02 Dec 05+27d Exeter E.B.F. 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle (Qualifier) Class 4 · 17f · Soft · 11 ran 2/11 5 11-0 —110C Jason Maguire 8/1
05 Nov 05+278d Sandown Barry Dennis NH Flat Race Class 6 · 16f · Heavy · 8 ran 5/8 7 11-0 —99C Wayne Hutchinson 12/1
31 Jan 05 Kempton NH Flat Race Class 6 · 16f · Good · 18 ran 4/18 3½ 11-4 —100C Wayne Hutchinson 10/1

Quick answers

How many races has Whosethatfor (IRE) won?
Whosethatfor (IRE) has yet to win, from 10 archived starts between 2005 and 2008. Placed 1 time in total (10% of starts).
Who trained Whosethatfor (IRE)?
Whosethatfor (IRE) was trained by Jim Old on the most recent run on record, at Warwick on 18 March 2008.
Who is Whosethatfor (IRE)'s sire?
Whosethatfor (IRE) is by Beneficial (GB) out of Native Craft (IRE), whose sire is Be My Native.
What is Whosethatfor (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 89, from the run on 18 March 2008. The highest on record is 105.
What is Whosethatfor (IRE)'s sire's record?
Beneficial (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 17,043 runs since Jan 2008 (1,155 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Whosethatfor (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Native Craft (IRE), Whosethatfor (IRE) has 8 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Very Stylish (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Very Stylish (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–3m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from January 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.