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Horse profile

Wither Or Not (IRE)

9yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2019) · Last trainer D Peters · Last owner M R Peters
by Saffron Walden (FR) out of Stage Debut (GB) (Decent Fellow)
3 runs · 3 courses · from Jun 2015
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 6 Mar 2019 — 2,793 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2019 · 3rd of 8 New yard
KTB Profile

Wither Or Not (IRE) is yet to win from 3 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 3rd of 8 at Catterick (Mar 2019).

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 60 the best of the last 1 graded (A or B) run · Catterick, 6 Mar 2019

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 1 run · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 100B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Downpatrick, 5 Jun 2015

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 100B · median 92
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good2100B96—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f2100B96—
Over 3m1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Saffron Walden (FR)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 719 runs since Jan 2008 (59 horses).

Strongest on good going: 12.7% from 252.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm500%−9.7—
Good to Firm78810.3%+0.6—
Good2523212.7%+30 from 2
Good to Soft8866.8%−2.9—
Soft179147.8%−1.90 from 1
Heavy9199.9%+0.2—
Standard (AW)2613.8%−5.9—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f3133.3%+23.6—
6f – 7f1500%−9.7—
1m – 1m1f2800%−9.7—
1m2f – 1m4f6411.6%−8.1—
1m5f – 2m2953511.9%+2.2—
2m1f – 2m4f2312310%+0.30 from 2
2m5f – 3m771013%+3.3—
Over 3m600%−9.70 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Stage Debut (GB) (Decent Fellow)

4 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Teamgeist (IRE)80——
The White Admiral (IRE)50——
Our Prima Donna (IRE)30——
Cannot Decide (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Catterick 1 0 0% −1.00
Roscommon 1 0 0% −1.00
Downpatrick 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
Over 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Mr Dale Peters 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr D G Lavery 1 0 0% −1.00
Ms L O'Neill 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2019 1 0 0% −1.00
2015 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00
Chase 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2019 · 1 run
06 Mar 19+1338d Catterick Support Jack Berry House Novices' Hunters' Chase Class 5 · 25f · Soft · 8 ran 3/8 24 11-7 60A90B Mr Dale Peters 10/1
2015 · 2 runs
07 Jul 15+32d Roscommon roscommonracecourse.ie Flat Race 20f · Good · 17 ran 13/17 1¼ 11-9 —92C Mr D G Lavery 16/1
05 Jun 15 Downpatrick Very Talented Ladies Flat Race 18f · Good · 7 ran 3/7 3¼ 11-7 —100B Ms L O'Neill 7/1

Quick answers

How many races has Wither Or Not won?
Wither Or Not (IRE) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts between 2015 and 2019. Placed 1 time in total (33.3% of starts).
Who trained Wither Or Not?
Wither Or Not (IRE) was trained by D Peters on the most recent run on record, at Catterick on 6 March 2019.
Who is Wither Or Not's sire?
Wither Or Not (IRE) is by Saffron Walden (FR) out of Stage Debut (GB), whose sire is Decent Fellow.
What is Wither Or Not's sire's record?
Saffron Walden (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 719 runs since Jan 2008 (59 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good going: 12.7% from 252.
Who are Wither Or Not's siblings?
Out of Stage Debut (GB), Wither Or Not (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from June 2015. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.