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Horse profile

Within Reason (IRE)

5yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2013) · Last trainer Liz Doyle · Last owner Mrs Judy Maxwell
by Broadway Flyer (USA) out of Pure N Simple (IRE) (Presenting)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Apr 2012
As at 6 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 16 Mar 2013 — 4,982 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2013 · 6th of 9
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Apr 2012 and Mar 2013, the last of them as a 5yo gelding. Finished 6 of 9 at Down Royal last time. By Broadway Flyer (USA), whose progeny in our archive have won 11% of 743 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 6 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 74C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Down Royal, 16 Mar 2013

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 74C · median 73.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Heavy1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f1———
1m5f – 2m1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Broadway Flyer (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 11% of 743 runs since Jan 2008 (68 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm400%−11—
Good to Firm4224.8%−6.2—
Good2202812.7%+1.7—
Good to Soft1101513.6%+2.6—
Soft2202310.5%−0.50 from 1
Heavy143149.8%−1.20 from 1
Standard (AW)400%−11—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m2f – 1m4f200%−11—
1m5f – 2m2012110.4%−0.60 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f2763010.9%−0.10 from 1
2m5f – 3m2052411.7%+0.7—
Over 3m59711.9%+0.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Pure N Simple (IRE) (Presenting)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2013 · 1 run
16 Mar 13+331d Down Royal Daily Mirror Hunters Chase 2m4f · Heavy · 9 ran 6/9 26 10-5 74C Mr J T Rath 33/1
2012 · 1 run
19 Apr 12 Tipperary Tipperary Racecourse Events Flat Race 2m · Soft · 17 ran 11/17 nk 10-11 73A Mr J T Rath 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Within Reason won?
Within Reason (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts between 2012 and 2013.
Who trained Within Reason?
Within Reason (IRE) was trained by Liz Doyle on the most recent run on record, at Down Royal on 16 March 2013.
Who is Within Reason's sire?
Within Reason (IRE) is by Broadway Flyer (USA) out of Pure N Simple (IRE), whose sire is Presenting.
What is Within Reason's sire's record?
Broadway Flyer (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11% of 743 runs since Jan 2008 (68 horses), Flat and jumps together.

Record shown from April 2012. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.