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Horse profile

You Never Know (GB)

6yo mare (at last run, Dec 2017) · Last trainer Claire Dyson · Last owner B S Vaughan Partner
by Apple Tree (FR) out of Capricorn Princess (GB) (Nicholas Bill)
1 run · 1 course · from Dec 2017
As at 6 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 15 Dec 2017 — 3,247 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Dec 2017 · 4th of 4
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 1 archived start in Dec 2017 as a 6yo mare. Finished 4 of 4 at Bangor-on-Dee last time. By Apple Tree (FR), whose progeny in our archive have won 7.7% of 584 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 1 archived run · updated 6 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 1 run · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 57C the best of the last 1 rated run · Bangor-on-Dee, 15 Dec 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 1 run · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Apple Tree (FR)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.7% of 584 runs since Jan 2008 (65 horses).

Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 4.4% from 114.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm4125%+17.3—
Good to Firm3412.9%−4.8—
Good187158%+0.3—
Good to Soft10887.4%−0.3—
Soft155149%+1.3—
Heavy9066.7%−10 from 1
Standard (AW)600%−7.7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f100%−7.7—
1m2f – 1m4f500%−7.7—
1m5f – 2m11454.4%−3.30 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f183189.8%+2.1—
2m5f – 3m231229.5%+1.8—
Over 3m5000%−7.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Capricorn Princess (GB) (Nicholas Bill)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Alfie Moone (GB)30——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2017 · 1 run
15 Dec 17 Bangor-on-Dee Tents & Events Marquee Hire Intermediate Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 2m½f · Heavy · 4 ran 4/4 37 10-4 76C57C Charlie Deutsch 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has You Never Know won?
You Never Know (GB) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2017.
Who trained You Never Know?
You Never Know (GB) was trained by Claire Dyson on the most recent run on record, at Bangor-on-Dee on 15 December 2017.
Who is You Never Know's sire?
You Never Know (GB) is by Apple Tree (FR) out of Capricorn Princess (GB), whose sire is Nicholas Bill.
What is You Never Know's sire's record?
Apple Tree (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.7% of 584 runs since Jan 2008 (65 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 4.4% from 114.
Who are You Never Know's siblings?
Out of Capricorn Princess (GB), You Never Know (GB) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from December 2017. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.