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Horse profile

Youcouldhavesaidno (GB)

3yo filly (at last run, May 2021) · Last trainer John & Thady Gosden · Last owner Mrs Ivan Shenkman
by Shalaa (IRE) out of Tara's Force (IRE) (Acclamation)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Nov 2020
As at 6 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 17 May 2021 — 1,998 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2021 · 2nd of 11 New yard
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Nov 2020 and May 2021, the last of them as a 3yo filly. Finished 2 of 11 at Windsor last time. By Shalaa (IRE), whose progeny in our archive have won 9.6% of 2,446 runs since May 2020.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 6 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 85 the best of the last 2 graded (A or B) runs · Kempton (AW), 4 Nov 2020

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 2 figures · best 85A · median 47.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Soft1———
Standard (AW)1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
1m – 1m1f1———
6f – 7f1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 79A the best of the last 2 rated runs · Kempton (AW), 4 Nov 2020

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 2 figures · best 79A · median 76
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Soft1———
Standard (AW)1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
1m – 1m1f1———
6f – 7f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 9.6% of 2,446 runs since May 2020 (279 horses).

Strongest on heavy going: 14.8% from 142.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm400%−9.6—
Good to Firm185147.6%−2—
Good340257.4%−2.2—
Good to Soft295258.5%−1.1—
Soft364277.4%−2.20 from 1
Heavy1422114.8%+5.2—
Standard (AW)1,11612411.1%+1.50 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f2102110%+0.4—
6f – 7f1,11312010.8%+1.20 from 1
1m – 1m1f731567.7%−1.90 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f267228.2%−1.4—
1m5f – 2m5547.3%−2.3—
2m1f – 2m4f651320%+10.4—
2m5f – 3m400%−9.6—
Over 3m100%−9.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since May 2020 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Tara's Force (IRE) (Acclamation)

7 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Exchequer (IRE) (8 wins).

The wins came over 5f–1m1½f; the highest grade won is Listed (Charm Appeal (FR)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Exchequer (IRE)7386f–7fClass 3
Le Freinay (IRE)2047f–1m1½f—
Charm Appeal (FR)736f–1mListed
Brighter (FR)515f—
New Look I (FR)411m—
New Look (FR)500——
Eccelso (GB)110——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2021 · 1 run
17 May 21+194d Windsor Eddy May Centenary Maiden Fillies' Stakes Class 5 · 1m · Soft · 11 ran 2/11 5 9-0 10B73A William Buick 10/3
2020 · 1 run
04 Nov 20 Kempton (AW) Unibet/British Stallion Studs EBF Fillies' Novice Stakes (Plus 10/GBB Race) (Div 2) Class 5 · 7f · Standard To Slow · 11 ran 4/11 2 9-0 85A79A Andrea Atzeni 6/1

Quick answers

How many races has Youcouldhavesaidno won?
Youcouldhavesaidno (GB) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts between 2020 and 2021. Placed 1 time in total (50% of starts).
Who trained Youcouldhavesaidno?
Youcouldhavesaidno (GB) was trained by John & Thady Gosden on the most recent run on record, at Windsor on 17 May 2021.
Who is Youcouldhavesaidno's sire?
Youcouldhavesaidno (GB) is by Shalaa (IRE) out of Tara's Force (IRE), whose sire is Acclamation.
What is Youcouldhavesaidno's sire's record?
Shalaa (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.6% of 2,446 runs since May 2020 (279 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on heavy going: 14.8% from 142.
Who are Youcouldhavesaidno's siblings?
Out of Tara's Force (IRE), Youcouldhavesaidno (GB) has 7 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Exchequer (IRE) (8). Highest grade won: Listed (Charm Appeal (FR)). The wins came over 5f–1m1½f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from November 2020. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.