And Whatever Else (IRE)
And Whatever Else (IRE) is 1 from 17, the win coming at Class 4 level. Hasn't won since Apr 2009. The win came on good or faster ground (0 from 8 on softer). Last raced off 89, 18lb below the career-high mark.
Progeny in our archive
As a dam, And Whatever Else (IRE) has 5 produce in the archive, 4 winners — most wins Queen Jane (IRE) (3 wins).
The wins came over 2m½f–3m4½f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Go Whatever (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Queen Jane (IRE) | 17 | 3 | 2m1½f–2m4f | — |
| Go Whatever (IRE) | 12 | 3 | 2m4½f–3m4½f | Class 2 |
| Imperial Knight (IRE) | 21 | 3 | 2m7f–3m2f | Class 3 |
| The Secret Pearl (IRE) | 20 | 2 | 2m½f–2m4f | Class 4 |
| Magnetic Zero (IRE) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
- 1–17Wins / Runs
- 5.9%Strike rate
- 3 (17.6%)Placed
- −11.50£1 level staken=17 at SP
- 1.15Fair A/E n=17 · 0.93 incl. margin
- 107Highest OR
- 64dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 11.8% of 3,724 runs since Jan 2008 (338 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 24 | 4 | 16.7% | +4.9 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Firm | 268 | 37 | 13.8% | +2 | — |
| Good | 976 | 100 | 10.2% | −1.6 | 1 from 8 |
| Good to Soft | 572 | 58 | 10.1% | −1.7 | 0 from 4 |
| Soft | 1,066 | 130 | 12.2% | +0.4 | 0 from 3 |
| Heavy | 794 | 106 | 13.4% | +1.6 | 0 from 1 |
| Standard (AW) | 24 | 4 | 16.7% | +4.9 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −11.8 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 12 | 0 | 0% | −11.8 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 30 | 1 | 3.3% | −8.5 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 863 | 110 | 12.7% | +0.9 | 0 from 3 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 1,319 | 166 | 12.6% | +0.8 | 0 from 7 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 1,199 | 133 | 11.1% | −0.7 | 1 from 3 |
| Over 3m | 300 | 29 | 9.7% | −2.1 | 0 from 4 |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 20 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
3 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Bags Groove (IRE) (9 wins).
The wins came over 1m5½f–3m1f; the highest grade won is Grade 2 (Bags Groove (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bags Groove (IRE) | 20 | 9 | 1m5½f–2m7½f | Grade 2 |
| My Moment (IRE) | 29 | 3 | 2m–3m | Class 3 |
| Landenstown Pearl (IRE) | 17 | 1 | 3m1f | Class 5 |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 8 | 1 | 13% | −2.50 |
| Good to Soft | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Soft | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 9 | 1 | 11% | −3.50 |
| Class 3 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class 5 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Punchestown | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Tramore | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Downpatrick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sedgefield | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Market Rasen | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Carlisle | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Uttoxeter | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Worcester | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Stratford | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Aintree | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Perth | 1 | 1 | 100% | +4.50 |
| Doncaster | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Southwell | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Musselburgh | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Thurles | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Clonmel | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Over 3m | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 3 | 1 | 33% | +2.50 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mr A E Kinirons | 12 | 0 | 0% | −12.00 |
| Sean McDermott | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Peter Toole | 2 | 1 | 50% | +3.50 |
| Henry Oliver | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 16 | 1 | 6% | −10.50 |
| Tongue tie | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2010 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2009 | 9 | 1 | 11% | −3.50 |
| 2008 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2007 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 11 | 1 | 9% | −5.50 |
| NH Flat | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Chase | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
Quick answers
- How many races has And Whatever Else (IRE) won?
- And Whatever Else (IRE) won 1 of 17 archived starts between 2007 and 2010, a strike rate of 5.9%. Placed 3 times in total (17.6% of starts).
- Who trained And Whatever Else (IRE)?
- And Whatever Else (IRE) was trained by John Daniel Moore on the most recent run on record, at Tramore on 13 August 2010.
- Who is And Whatever Else (IRE)'s sire?
- And Whatever Else (IRE) is by Bob Back (USA) out of Golden Moment (IRE), whose sire is Roselier.
- What going does And Whatever Else (IRE) prefer?
- And Whatever Else (IRE) has the best record on good going: 1 win from 8 starts (12.5%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is And Whatever Else (IRE)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 89, from the run on 13 August 2010. The highest on record is 107.
- What is And Whatever Else (IRE)'s sire's record?
- Bob Back (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.8% of 3,724 runs since Jan 2008 (338 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are And Whatever Else (IRE)'s siblings?
- Out of Golden Moment (IRE), And Whatever Else (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Bags Groove (IRE) (9). Highest grade won: Grade 2 (Bags Groove (IRE)). The wins came over 1m5½f–3m1f. As at Oct 2026.
- Has And Whatever Else (IRE) produced winners?
- As a dam, And Whatever Else (IRE) has 5 produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Queen Jane (IRE) (3). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Go Whatever (IRE)). The wins came over 2m½f–3m4½f. As at Oct 2026.