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Horse profile

Brave Optimist (IRE)

4yo filly (at last run, Feb 2009) · Last trainer Paul Green · Last owner J H Davey
by Diktat (GB) out of Maine Lobster (USA) (Woodman)
3 runs · 2 courses · from Sep 2008
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 14 Feb 2009 — 6,457 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Feb 2009 · 6th of 6 Last raced off OR 47
KTB Profile

Brave Optimist (IRE) is yet to win from 3 starts.

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 46C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Wolverhampton (AW), 6 Dec 2008 Official rating 47 at the last run, 14 Feb 2009

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 3 figures · best 46C · median 43
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)246C38.5—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f1———
1m2f – 1m4f1———
6f – 7f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Diktat (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 8.2% of 4,931 runs since Jan 2008 (337 horses).

Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 11.4% from 431. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 5.1% from 156.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm62812.9%+4.7—
Good to Firm860627.2%−1—
Good1,124837.4%−0.8—
Good to Soft567549.5%+1.30 from 1
Soft643609.3%+1.1—
Heavy233208.6%+0.4—
Standard (AW)1,4421178.1%−0.10 from 2
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f4314911.4%+3.2—
6f – 7f1,4421409.7%+1.50 from 1
1m – 1m1f1,037817.8%−0.40 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f864586.7%−1.50 from 1
1m5f – 2m594345.7%−2.5—
2m1f – 2m4f387338.5%+0.3—
2m5f – 3m15685.1%−3.1—
Over 3m2015%−3.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 20 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Maine Lobster (USA) (Woodman)

4 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Lord Of The Dance (IRE) (10 wins).

The wins came over 6f–2m; the highest grade won is Group 2 (Major Cadeaux (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Lord Of The Dance (IRE)69107f–1m½fClass 3
Beachfire (GB)2061m–2mListed
Main Edition (IRE)1256f–7fGroup 3
Major Cadeaux (GB)1546f–1mGroup 2

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Wolverhampton (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Catterick 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m – 1m1f 1 0 0% −1.00
1m2f – 1m4f 1 0 0% −1.00
6f – 7f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Krish Gundowry 1 0 0% −1.00
Tom Eaves 1 0 0% −1.00
Paul Quinn 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2009 1 0 0% −1.00
2008 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
14 Feb 09+70d Wolverhampton (AW) Tonight Is 80's Party Night Maiden Fillies' Stakes Class 5 · 8.5f · Standard · 6 ran 6/6 11 9-5 4731C Krish Gundowry 100/1
06 Dec 08+77d Wolverhampton (AW) Online Betting With Freebets.co.uk Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 12f · Standard · 11 ran 10/11 30 8-12 4746C Tom Eaves 50/1
20 Sep 08 Catterick Book Raceday Hospitality On 01748 810165 Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 7f · Good To Soft · 15 ran 8/15 2¾ 8-12 4743C Paul Quinn 40/1

Quick answers

How many races has Brave Optimist (IRE) won?
Brave Optimist (IRE) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts between 2008 and 2009.
Who trained Brave Optimist (IRE)?
Brave Optimist (IRE) was trained by Paul Green on the most recent run on record, at Wolverhampton (AW) on 14 February 2009.
Who is Brave Optimist (IRE)'s sire?
Brave Optimist (IRE) is by Diktat (GB) out of Maine Lobster (USA), whose sire is Woodman.
What is Brave Optimist (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 47, from the run on 14 February 2009. That is also the highest on record.
What is Brave Optimist (IRE)'s sire's record?
Diktat (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.2% of 4,931 runs since Jan 2008 (337 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 11.4% from 431. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 5.1% from 156.
Who are Brave Optimist (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Maine Lobster (USA), Brave Optimist (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Lord Of The Dance (IRE) (10). Highest grade won: Group 2 (Major Cadeaux (GB)). The wins came over 6f–2m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from September 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.